Well said Dennis..lions indeed.
I do have to say that I like Theodore's teachable attitude.


Theodore, I have a few questions.
1. How much time does she spend in the crate a day?
2. you said that you are exercising her a lot, that is great!
How much exactly and what exercising are you doing with her...like Connie asked a schedule.
3. Have you started any form of pack structure program like Ed outlines in his pack structure video?
I know she is awfully young, for this....but I'm going to say given her behavior...that we should consider it.

I had to put My daughter's 7 month old at the time Dachshund pup in a modified pack structure program. Dachshunds were bred to hunt badger, and he has a working temperament. No quit or back down in him. He is really drivey and one day it was like someone turned on a switch..he turned into a land shark.
NOTHING WORKED...NOTHING.
We tried all you listed..he was getting plenty of exercise particularly given his age...you have to be careful because they aren't mature in their bodies. I PM'ed a man here that does earth dog competitions and is familiar with terriers and such..Bob Scott.
I outlined a proposed exercise program...he made adjustments and I went with it. He basically upped the frequency and decreased the length. We were doing 4 3/4 mile power walks a day....for a mini doxie.
Anyway We put him on Ed's adult dog pack structure program, but with the addition of lots of play time....after AFTER the social isolation phase...yes with a pup.
He was uncontrollable. We even did the thing where you catch their jaw and curl their lips in over their teeth and squeeze till they yike.
The pack structure program worked really well. He was in his crate in "Isolation" meaning no cuddles or playing for 1.5 weeks.
Then I had her take him out for short play sessions involving marker training and tug and chase a ball.
If he was obnoxious he went back in the crate. As Ed says he lost the privileged.
It became really obvious really fast, that we weren't going to tolerate him acting that way.

IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK YOU MUST MUST MUST HAVE A STRUCTURED AND REGIMENTED EXERCISE PROGRAM FOR THE DOG. IF NOT THEN, THIS IS INHUMANE.

Potty breaks were separate, as well as food time.
He is now a reasonably calm pup...as drivey pups go. lol.
I hav also found that he does much better when he is mentally tired as well. The physical wasn't enough.
I like this program because you don't have to physically confront the dog...in our case it was too small and fragile..when a leash correction or firm physical touch won't do it, where else do you go with a dog so small?
Like Ed says it makes it really clear to the dog who is in charge and what won't be tolerated.
Normally in a pup this young, I wouldn't advise this, but if the dog is getting lots of exercise and training and such...it might be necessary.
I welcome input/thoughts!
Willie

Thanks for all the input. For a large breed pup how much walking can she take; I know I can't jog with her yet but everybody here is correct in that I need to tire her out more. I wanted a large dog with drive and that is what I have. I'm just not used to it yet

I am really looking forward to a great dog so thanks for the help.

Thanks

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I know I can't jog with her yet but everybody here is correct in that I need to tire her out more. I wanted a large dog with drive and that is what I have. I'm just not used to it yet

I am really looking forward to a great dog so thanks for the help.

Thanks

When my pup was driving me nuts I took him outside and ran around the yard having him chase an old towel tied by a rope onto a long pole. Thank goodness we live out in the boonies so the neighbors couldn't see me. It wasn't always pretty, but we both got tired. (Trust me, I am not an athletic person, so this took enormous dedication on my part... :blush I still would have done it if we lived in the city - it was either that or shoot the dog/and/or myself. I know this is not the complete answer to your situation, but as Randy said, try to have fun and incorporate your dog's natural instinct/abilty into how you play.

THANK God we are past this stage... LOL!!

too funny Barbara!

I don't know how much she can take...how about 4 or 5 15 -20 min power walks.....anyone? I think breaking it up would be good....and I just love Barbara's idea of a hard core chase the thing on the end of a stick.
I used to get a lunge whip for horses and tie a rag on the end of it and let them chase that.

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I used to get a lunge whip for horses and tie a rag on the end of it and let them chase that.

LOL! That is exactly what I used but I was worried that if I mentioned a "whip" someone would jump over and not hear the "towel on the end of the rope!!!" I was so glad to get rid of that darn whip, and donated it to a barn where I volunteer... It was like out growing a diaper bag!!

I've exercised the dog more, trained more, and she has made great progress the last couple of days. The Tug DVD is coming this week and I am really looking forward to start this training.

Thanks for the help.

Fantastic!!!!!!
Glad to hear it!

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I've exercised the dog more, trained more, and she has made great progress the last couple of days. The Tug DVD is coming this week and I am really looking forward to start this training.

Thanks for the help.

Sorry I missed this thread till now, but your pup sounds just like my RR during the first month or 2 we had him... bratty! You've received great advice though, and it sounds like it's paying off. I gotta say, the most important thing for my guy was definitely making sure we tired him out multiple times a day (mostly free running, chasing, playing in the grass... he wasn't much of a focused "walker" till he was a bit older). Most RRs have excellent prey drive, so I love the rag/toy on the end of a line or pole game... and most are also completely obsessed with food, which you should DEFINITELY use to your advantage with marker training.

Be prepared for a lot of challenges with this breed - I just love them, but Oscar is our first and he's really changed pretty much everything I thought I knew about dogs (for the better) .

Have fun with her!

~Natalya

Yep, the lunge whip with the rag is the best. Used it with all my pups. They were absolutly crazy for it. My horse didn't mind sharing his equipment. LOL

Running & playing (physical exercise)& marker training (mental stimulation) is the best way to have a happy, tired well trained pup.