 Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271073 - 03/29/2010 05:38 PM |
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I've grown very used to male-aggressive males so I just tend not to test the dynamic. I have always separated intact males from each as a common practice.
Even so, some of the nastiest dog fights I've witness have been between two females.
I have found much better dynamics occur between a male and female generally (and the females seemed to dominate over the males more often than not in those circumstances), but I have had individuals of both genders who hated everybody or individuals of either gender.
Of course, all generalities.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271084 - 03/29/2010 06:31 PM |
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Well, the last one in the pack will get all the attention..But really, I like Big Cat Dairy. And even thou it is another species, they seems to follow good discipline and pack order. Why Can't two trained opposite sex dog get along for the good of the pack. So here is another question in the same line. Male/Female In Coitus, Don't they get along? Pardon My ignorance.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271089 - 03/29/2010 06:46 PM |
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Sorry,
Don't have anything to say about c-a-t-s in this house.
Me thinks they wouldn't last long around here unless they like living in trees.....if they make it that far.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271092 - 03/29/2010 06:51 PM |
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Kristel, I'm Concluding is all individual personalities. With strong handlers relationship on how He wants to live with His or Her dogs. I have seen a person I respect with two schH 3 males plus a male pup get along, She is a strong leader, But also aloof it seems as an observer. Those dogs are respected in their own rights. One just appended to past away. But the memories of that pack has made a remarkable impression on me . Dan
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Kelly wrote 03/29/2010 07:22 PM
Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
[Re: Danilo A. Nelson ]
#271096 - 03/29/2010 07:22 PM |
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Dog packs can and do live in harmony. I have 5 females, 3 of which are intact, living together. We rarely have a squabble.
Part of being a good pack leader is understanding the pack dynamic. I KNOW what my dogs will accept and what they won't without a battle. I do not make them interact with dogs they do not like.. it's a battle that I (as leader) choose not to fight.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271100 - 03/29/2010 07:46 PM |
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That is impressive IMHO. 
I like to think I am a strong leader too, but even so I would not have put two of my intact males together. No way. Maybe breed characteristics come into play here? I know the tracks turn (muzzled) intact male Greyhounds out in groups together without incident, but I would never do it with Dobermans  .
It might be a different dynamic too, when dealing with larger groups of dogs of mixed gender and age, eg: If there are two or more intact breeding males on the property and several breeding females, they aren't going to relate to each other the same way as three males living together in a home, which would certainly explain my reticence to 'mix n' match'  .
It is definitely dependent on individual dogs and humans involved in the equation, in addition to SO many other factors. No hard and fast rules for sure.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271102 - 03/29/2010 07:47 PM |
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My dogs have all lived with a cat. They grew up with a cat in the house. The dogs know that the cat is not on the menue & the cat knows better then to run around the dogs. They co-exist under those rules. They even play together. They have also all slept on the same bed together. My cat is an indoor cat. In the house is one thing..... the cat would come to a very bad end if she ever ventured out the backdoor with my dogs in the yard....the rules out there are very different.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271108 - 03/29/2010 08:20 PM |
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Dog packs can and do live in harmony. I have 5 females, 3 of which are intact, living together. We rarely have a squabble.
Part of being a good pack leader is understanding the pack dynamic. I KNOW what my dogs will accept and what they won't without a battle. I do not make them interact with dogs they do not like.. it's a battle that I (as leader) choose not to fight.
I managed to get Erika and Roxie to work together but the minute they think they are off the clock they start ranking. As soon as I see the first sign I give them a task and then send them to the "Zwinger".
What drives me up the wall is even tho they don't get along, they don't want to be seperated. If one is in the kennel the other will lay right next to it, same for the crate or even a door seperating them in the house ie bedroom door and hallway. I think its their way of keeping an eye on each other and making sure they don't miss out on anything.
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271135 - 03/29/2010 09:23 PM |
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Kelly, Kristel, Ann,and Dennis, that seems as loyalty to pack and you'll as the leaders, Plenty of Dynamics, But I bet no one would change much of the decision they have made. Question, Is there any task or activity that can bring a pack closer. Walking together, following rank as in feeding, praising, petting etc? Does it might make a different in level of training, as far as handling stress as in working dogs? This is good education, Thanks for teaching, any good books or video of higher learning? on subject matter expert. Dan
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Re: Misunderstading Male/Female dog relashionship
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#271139 - 03/29/2010 09:49 PM |
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hard to say, with my two it was simple, they are about equal in prey drive and I made it a point to show them two treats or two toys and made both of them do the same task at the same time, when I sent them out to find their toy I used more them one toy. I try as best I can not to treat or show affection more to one, I think most dogs have a sense of "fairness". Frankly, I made a mistake on getting two working line females in my situation. I got two other dogs, three kids and a job so I must kennel/contain/control them at all times. I can't just tell them to lay down while I take a nap on the couch or do yard work
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