Connie Sutherland wrote 05/08/2010 08:21 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Dennis Jones ] #275712 - 05/08/2010 08:21 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: rob abel Other dogs in the water can help ...  Quote: mara jessup Find another dog who loves water ...  Quote: dennis jones second (third) the "get another dog in the water" motion ... How on earth did I forget the "other dogs in the water" trick!? Our training club has an odd sideline (rescuing Pugs). (Quick explanation of the following: Pugs are a racist, or breedist, bunch; there are 34 Pugs in this group now, and there is never any dog aggro. No idea why, unless they recognize and like the flat-face profile.) The Pugs have a holiday get-together, they are in a 4th of July parade. they have a Halloween party, and they have a summer BBQ. For the summer party, there is a kiddie pool so these bracheophalic dogs can get cool up to the belly. Whew. Backstory over. I had to explain that, because in no other circumstances would I think it was a good idea to herd a couple dozen dogs off-leash dogs into a yard, never mind a house. The minute one Pug gets in that pool, it becomes filled to bursting with so many dogs they can't really move, and still more try to get in. Mine learned about the joys of water from these parties.
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Barbara Schuler wrote 05/08/2010 08:27 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #275714 - 05/08/2010 08:27 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: connie sutherland  Quote: rob abel Other dogs in the water can help. ...  Quote: mara jessup Find another dog who loves water ...  Quote: dennis jones second(third) the "get another dog in the water" motion .. How on earth did I forget the "other dogs in the water" trick!? Our training club has an odd sideline (rescuing Pugs). (Quick explanation of the following: Pugs are a racist, or breedist, bunch; there are 34 Pugs in this group now, and there is never any dog aggro. No idea why, unless they recognize and like the flat-face profile.) The Pugs have a holiday get-together, they are in a 4th of July parade. they have a Halloween party, and they have a summer BBQ. For the summer party, there is a kiddie pool so these bracheophalic dogs can get cool up to the belly. Whew. Backstory over. I had to explain that, because in no other circumstances would I think it was a good idea to herd a couple dozen dogs off-leash dogs into a yard, never mind a house. The minute one Pug gets in that pool, it becomes filled to bursting with so many dogs they can't really move, and still more try to get in. Mine learned about the joys of water from these parties. Sure makes my lousy pan of water pale in comparison... deep sigh. Who knew pugs were "breedists"?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/08/2010 08:35 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #275715 - 05/08/2010 08:35 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: barbara schuler ... Sure makes my lousy pan of water pale in comparison... deep sigh. Who knew pugs were "breedists"? If there was a lousy pan of water at the BBQ, they would be squished into it. I always hesitate to mention these unique get-togethers, and I know I would not have believed it if someone told me they knew a breed that recognized "their people" to this extent. It's weird. Nothing really explains to me why they all get along like they do. One of mine has been in the group since 2005, so I have seen dozens of different Pugs join the parties over the years with no problems. Talk about off-topic. With a real dog, I'd probably limit it to one other dog to lure them in, as opposed to a couple dozen.
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Barbara Schuler wrote 05/08/2010 08:41 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #275718 - 05/08/2010 08:41 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: connie sutherland  Quote: barbara schuler ... Sure makes my lousy pan of water pale in comparison... deep sigh. Who knew pugs were "breedists"? If there was a lousy pan of water at the BBQ, they would be squished into it. I almost hesitate to mention these get-togethers, and I know I would not have believed it if someone told me they knew a breed that recognized "their people" to this extent. It's weird. They are all pretty well-trained, but nothing really explains to me why they all get along like they do. One of mine has been in the group since 2005, so I have seen dozens of different Pugs join the parties over the years with no problems. Talk about off-topic. With a real dog, I'd probably limit it to one other dog to lure them in, as opposed to a couple dozen. Talk about REALLY off topic (but interesting and amusing so it can't be toooo bad) one of my roosters used to definately prefer "his" breed of hens and covered them far more often than the other breed of hens in the yard. How in the heck did he know? Breedist pugs and roosters!
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Marcia Blum wrote 05/08/2010 08:55 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #275721 - 05/08/2010 08:55 PM
Marcia Blum Webboard User Reg: 10-07-2009 Posts: 512 Loc: Denver, Colorado Offline	Dogs in the yard with a wading pool sounds like fun. The down side to creek hopping and romping is the mud at the end of the day. May have to set up the pool for when we get home (if all goes well and we actually get our toes wet!)
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Mara Jessup wrote 05/08/2010 09:02 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #275722 - 05/08/2010 09:02 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	Quote: I always hesitate to mention these unique get-togethers, and I know I would not have believed it if someone told me they knew a breed that recognized "their people" to this extent. It's weird. Nothing really explains to me why they all get along like they do. One of mine has been in the group since 2005, so I have seen dozens of different Pugs join the parties over the years with no problems. O/T - That happens with Border Collies frequently. They often can't stand the lab/golden in your face type dogs (these breeds are often happy, happy, happy and a bit oblivious to "give me space" body language) or boxers (go figure?). I'm guessing the whole "breedist" thing is because they are very in tune to the body language of other dogs and different breeds "read" differently because of their body types. They can read their own breed well, but other breed look and read different to them. K-9 Knitter
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Natalya Zahn wrote 05/08/2010 09:12 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Mara Jessup ] #275723 - 05/08/2010 09:12 PM
Natalya Zahn Webboard User Reg: 12-22-2006 Posts: 1824 Loc: Cambridge, MA Offline	Quote: mara jessup O/T - That happens with Border Collies frequently. I'm guessing the whole "breedist" thing is because they are very in tune to the body language of other dogs and different breeds "read" differently because of their body types. They can read their own breed well, but other breed look and read different to them. Oh man, this is SO true with RRs!! Oscar had never met another RR (after he came home to us) until he was 2.5 y/o - and when he finally did... WHOA! was it like love at long last!! We encounter very few RRs here, but every subsequent reaction has been the same... I'm a believer in the "breedist" theory for sure. I'm also in agreement with the idea that getting another, water-loving dog, into the water first will help any water averse dog feel the need to "take the plunge". Oscar is really just a "wader" by preference, but anytime he's with a buddy that love's diving in and swimming out for sticks, Oscar will gladly join, just to play along.... it's tough to resist the allure of a jazzed-beyond-belief-water-dog!! ~Natalya
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Lisa skinner wrote 05/08/2010 09:38 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Natalya Zahn ] #275726 - 05/08/2010 09:38 PM
Lisa skinner Webboard User Reg: 03-11-2010 Posts: 515 Loc: Dallas,TX USA Offline	Yeah, it's not just my dogs that are 'breedists!' and I prefer that term to the ones I've been using. I didn't care for calling my dogs predijudised or racists. Breedists, much better. The water loving dog thing is the way to go. My BC finally figured out that dogs won't melt when they get wet because my other dog is addicted to water games and she's obssessed with copying anything he does. It was kind of ironic since the dog that was afraid of water is named Rain. *sigh* I didn't think that out well, did I? :-)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/08/2010 09:40 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Mara Jessup ] #275727 - 05/08/2010 09:40 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	And yet --- think of how many gatherings of a few dozen off-leash GSDs or Mals (insert name of any of a couple hundred breeds here) we see, with all happy-dancing and no aggression.
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CJ Barrett wrote 05/08/2010 10:08 PM Re: Won't cross the creek [Re: Marcia Blum ] #275729 - 05/08/2010 10:08 PM
CJ Barrett Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2009 Posts: 1797 Loc: Offline	Quote: Marcia Blum The down side to creek hopping and romping is the mud at the end of the day. My husky is going on 9 and has never liked water. He will travel to the end of the leash to avoid a puddle. After a couple of years it also started to cause problems on mountain hikes. Trying to figure out the problem, I did a lot of quiet work with a sponge and a bucket of water. He would flinch at first but got used to the wetness on his feet and now goes in up to his knees. He will cross a creek when absolutely necessary – we just carry on and he figures it out. I have no idea if he can swim so we have a life jacket for him when we’re participating in any kind of water activities. But there definitely is an upside… the two younger ones will play in the muddiest of streams. Their dirty paws and underbellies are a going concern; however, the sparkling clean husky can mingle with the best of them. I don’t believe he’s a breedest, more of a kindred spirit kind of guy. I think he would enjoy playing with this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTwmkvFuH4
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