Lol yes all of you make perfect sence. And thank you for all the info.
I have never had so much help. You guys are wonderful. Thank you so much

As for zoe the pup. I am a welder and I made one that is in destructable. But I'm so worried she's going to hurt her self by thrashing around. Anxity. A few people have told me this but how to cure it is beond me. She is perfect wile we are there only left alone is she wild. We did alll the crate games for months feed insde treats only in crate. Gave toys in there. I'm not aware of any thing we did not try.
What is odd why would she be good for so long then start all over. My wife thinks it may be that my male passed away. But she did it once then. And fine for quite awile now back to destruction. What would make her change.

If you aren't already doing this, here's something else to add to the mix:

Keep the ritual of you coming and going from the house as LOW ENERGY as possible. No big goodbyes--just put her in the crate and leave.

Even more important is when you come home--you should not speak to, look at, or touch the dog for several minutes. Until she has self-calmed. Then you can greet her as much as you want.

The idea behind this is that if the MOST IMPORTANT moment of the dog's day is your return from work--because you have a big greeting party the moment you walk in the door, then the dog sits there all day filled with anxiety and anticipation of that BIG MOMENT. If coming and going are the lowest-energy part of the day (because when you come in the door, it's no different than when you weren't there, because you ignore her) then the act of coming and going become much less stressful.

Like everything else, it takes practice. But it's what we do. Now when I come home, I generally find dogs still sleeping--I have to go wake them up to let them out. They aren't barking and jumping with excitement at my return because they know that my return doesn't get them anything special.

Adam, how big is the crate? Is it possible she has too much room?

That's cool that you are a welder and can make your own!!!!

It's so hard to know what causes dogs to change a behavior.

Part of what you are facing with her is called "extinction burst." Since she's escaped in the past with wild behavior, she'll try again every once in a while just to see - maybe it was if I move this way, or thrash that way when I got out the last time! Over time, as long as you are consistent with her, the behaviors will diminish greatly, then RETURN briefly, then keep tailing downward, then RETURN ever so briefly (last ditch effort!!), then go away.

(any possibility she's been let out of the crate for crying or carrying on? That would also contribute...)

If she's getting major exercise and still thrashing so much, I wonder about trying some Rescue Remedy or similar to see how it affects her. I'd try it first when you will be home with her so you can observe. Simulate unceremoniously going outside (maybe peek in the window??) then back in.

I agree completely with Tracy - practice going in and out alot, and NEVER greet her or say goodbye - just calmly go about your business. Never go to her first thing inside. Only when she's quiet and calm does the crate door open (in fact, quiet, calm, and does a sit/stay).

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Like everything else, it takes practice. But it's what we do. Now when I come home, I generally find dogs still sleeping--I have to go wake them up to let them out. They aren't barking and jumping with excitement at my return because they know that my return doesn't get them anything special.

Good luck! You'll get there!

Thank you all I'll give all this a try and get back with you at a later date.
Thank you so much for all the help