I wish it was that easy but hes not my personal dog. My personal dog is a GSD SchHIII black sable. He listens to just me, and that works fine for us. This dog, from day one I have had no problems with but the family that owns him-think he is perfect except for the random grabbing objects. He does it on and off leash and very random. Otherwise he listens to them with no issue. Oddly enough in protection he "aus" first time for them. Thats why I wondered if it was a reflection of the forced retrieve from Germany training. Im open to suggestions to try anything right now.
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Have you tried working on a leave it command with him? How about working with the family on their handling skills? A little sport style handling for him from the family.
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Also, if he's conflicted from a forced retrieve, how about some of the non-confrontational ways of outing him? Like trading another tug, or two ball? With the family, not you.
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Not my personal dog, the family called me about the swing issue and had to go down and get him for them. He is a angel when I am there but as soon as I leave-he reverts to gripping things. On and off leash, just walking by a object he will grab it and hold. I know about three people right now he does not do this with but they all train and they take him home, hes a angel, at the family home he does not appear to listen.
How long have they had him? Have you seen any of the pack structure e-books or videos here? The issue isn't that he won't release, it's that the family who own him are lacking in experience.
Here's an e-book that you can print out and give the owner. Pack Structure for Adult Dogs
Also, are you allowing the owner to handle the dog in your presence so you can observe the behavior and give pointers as to how they should be handling the dog?
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Exercise is key for all dogs, then set up times to teach them to handle the dog and praise him when he does well to build a bond between the owners. If he is sweet, he will come around for them. Dan
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself. ~Josh Billings
I think the OP is spot on.
They used extreme amounts of pressure to get a Sch1 on the dog, to include the Force Retrieve, on a dog that didn't have a temperament to recover from it.
They need to trade the dog for food or a toy. Eventually he'll realize that outing is not a bad thing.
They could try always having him sit in the recall position, before they ask for things.
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Don't get any ideas,Steve. Billy & Chaos might not be happy with you if they hear rumblings of sale following that SchH I title. Don't let your dogs peek over your shoulder & see that JRT handler aggression thread? Your dogs may get some ideas. LOL
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