Anne Jones wrote 07/27/2010 11:10 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Willie Tilton ] #288032 - 07/27/2010 11:10 AM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Off topic....Steve, a new pup? MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Ryan Rubel wrote 07/27/2010 11:11 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Willie Tilton ] #288035 - 07/27/2010 11:11 AM
Ryan Rubel Webboard User Reg: 04-07-2010 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	Thanks for all of the input, everyone. After the people walked away he continued on our walk and seemed normal very soon after (sniffing around again, chasing moths, etc). I took it as him being protective, but its possible I'm seeing that because that's what I want to see . He's generally very confident (not afraid of fireworks or gunshots, loves people, etc) but I have seen him afraid of things like the lawnmower or the garbage truck when they dump a large dumpster and make lots of noise. In those cases he backs up and just watches or moves away. I'm not sure exactly what triggered his response like this, because I take him on night walks fairly often and we see people every once in a while. Normally it's not as dark as it was this time though. I'll definitely check out the trainer listed above!
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steve strom wrote 07/27/2010 11:13 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Anne Jones ] #288036 - 07/27/2010 11:13 AM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: Anne Jones Off topic....Steve, a new pup? Lol, no. Thats Billy. I was monkeying around with pics today.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 07/27/2010 11:13 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Willie Tilton ] #288037 - 07/27/2010 11:13 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	If the dog was mature, and didn't have a history of unbalanced behavior, I might grant that he was reacting assertively to a threat. At this age, I'm more apt to label it fear or uncertainty, rather than assertiveness. The sharp puppies in the club almost always bark at myself and another member when we walk off the tracking field. Something about the way we walk bothers them, and they respond with sharp, fear aggression. I'd call that the case here. 5 months is an odd age, and all sorts of new behaviors pop up. I second the advice to contact a good working dog trainer. He's very quick to pop into defense at this age. That can be shaped and worked, and prey built up to try to balance his drives, and actually create a very, VERY nice working dog. A sharp dog can be a pain, but can be worked through it quite nicely, and come out the other side a quality companion and working dog.
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Michael_Wise wrote 07/27/2010 11:18 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Dave Ferguson ] #288038 - 07/27/2010 11:18 AM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: dave ferguson That is why I used the word "personally" in the sentence you quoted and did not use a word like "would", or "do not". While not an English major by any means, I thought when you said something like "personally" in a sentence it was understood that you were offering your opinion. "What? I said it with all due respect! It's in the Geneva Conventions, look it up" - Ricky Bobby Easy, Dave. Just a question. Hence my use of a question mark. That was a joke, Dave.:laugh: Ryan, a trainer sounds like a good road to take. Somebody that can actually put their hands on the dog. Personal protection is a huge commitment. I wish that guy had his "training philosopy" on his website. I'd like to know what he is about.:smile:
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steve strom wrote 07/27/2010 11:20 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Ryan Rubel ] #288041 - 07/27/2010 11:20 AM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: Ryan Rubel Thanks for all of the input, everyone. After the people walked away he continued on our walk and seemed normal very soon after (sniffing around again, chasing moths, etc). I took it as him being protective, but its possible I'm seeing that because that's what I want to see . He's generally very confident (not afraid of fireworks or gunshots, loves people, etc) but I have seen him afraid of things like the lawnmower or the garbage truck when they dump a large dumpster and make lots of noise. In those cases he backs up and just watches or moves away. I'm not sure exactly what triggered his response like this, because I take him on night walks fairly often and we see people every once in a while. Normally it's not as dark as it was this time though. I'll definitely check out the trainer listed above! Most people want to see it the same as you Ryan. Its no knock, but probably the reason Mike brought it up is he's not protecting you and like Willie said, letting him decide these things will lead to trouble. If he recovers and goes back to what he was doing, thats good. Treat it like its no big deal. If your looking to do any kind of protection stuff, do it with a good trainer with a heavy emphasis on obedience. JMO.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 07/27/2010 11:21 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Willie Tilton ] #288044 - 07/27/2010 11:21 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Training philosophy? I'd just be content for credentials.
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Wendy Lefebvre wrote 07/27/2010 11:21 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #288045 - 07/27/2010 11:21 AM
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005 Posts: 1271 Loc: Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada Offline	Ryan, Im glad to see you took everyone's comments with the intentions that they were being posted and didn't get all riled up....lol No one's saying the pup won't eventually have what it takes to do a protection job. Just that at this stage in his life he's still adjusting to sights and sounds etc. Im not saying he was fearful...but more uncertain about what he was seeing or no seeing considering how dark it was. I know that at night Tucker will growl like crazy if he hears something outside. But it's definately more of a "hey, whats that, I can't tell so i'll growl just in case!" type of thing. Don't complain....TRAIN!!!
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Dave Ferguson wrote 07/27/2010 11:28 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Michael_Wise ] #288047 - 07/27/2010 11:28 AM
Dave Ferguson Webboard User Reg: 07-07-2010 Posts: 221 Loc: Warrens, WI Offline	Quote: michael_wise  Quote: dave ferguson That is why I used the word "personally" in the sentence you quoted and did not use a word like "would", or "do not". While not an English major by any means, I thought when you said something like "personally" in a sentence it was understood that you were offering your opinion. "What? I said it with all due respect! It's in the Geneva Conventions, look it up" - Ricky Bobby Easy, Dave. Just a question. Hence my use of a question mark. That was a joke, Dave.:laugh: Ryan, a trainer sounds like a good road to take. I wish that guy had his "training philosopy" on his website. I'd like to know what he is about.:smile: I know. I was not being testy or pissy. Sorry if I came off that way. I am hosting an entry level dog OB training seminar, that will also touch on a few other things and maybe lead to people wanting to train other things down the road. It is an all ages training seminar, I like to work with the youth as much as I do adults. I am in the process of writing curriculum, for both youth and adults. I like to do that to give them something to take home and reference. I feel its easier on them then having to learn and remember at the same time. But, when I said I was not an English major I meant it. Writing all this out is the most stressful part for me. LOL.
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Dave Ferguson wrote 07/27/2010 11:40 AM Re: Protective Young Rottweiler [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #288051 - 07/27/2010 11:40 AM
Dave Ferguson Webboard User Reg: 07-07-2010 Posts: 221 Loc: Warrens, WI Offline	Quote: Aaron Myracle Training philosophy? I'd just be content for credentials. Hahaha. Yeah he does not keep up with his Web-Site. Never has. Also Ryan- If you are ever up in Madison WI let me know. Long time friend of the family Steve Miller owns a Schutzhund club up here and is the President of the Madison US Schutzhund Training Club. Been doing it since the 70s. I am not really in to Bite Sports. I like Personal protection and Street Protection a bit better. But, I hang out at his place several times a month. I go out just for some bite work and tracking. I help him decoy too. There is a trail this weekend if you want to come up and see how it works. I am sure he will look at your dog too if you bring him. I can call and ask. I might try to get a Schutzhund-I on my 9 month Dobe, or my mutt for fun, just because it would be free. Lol. You can contact him here. Madison is not to bad of a ride from where you live in IL. http://www.vomhausmiller.com/
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