For diet, get the diarrhea under control first.

Overcooked white rice and boiled chicken is a good bland diet to help stop diarrhea.

Leg quarters can be a problem for some dogs when they are just starting out. The darker meat and harder bones being the culprit.

I would also break it up into 4 small meals a day. Eventually, after he is tolerating the diet well, have at least 3 meals until you start going into the adult amounts of feeding.

You could probably go to 2 meals earlier, but I'm just being cautious since he is already having problems. Use your judgement on that once he is doing better.

Can you get chicken backs?

They are really soft, easily digestible bones and lean meat. You'll want to remove all the skin and visible fat at first. Once he has a few days of good poops with that, you can start leaving a small amount of fat on.

Then more of the same. After he shows to be doing well with the small amount of fat left on you can leave a little more, and so on and so on......

For right now, you don't need to worry so much with organ meats or meat variety in the diet. That will come in later after he has done well with the chicken backs.

Organ meat and other variety is added the same way, though. Small amounts and gradually building up to the desired amount.

omg how did I miss the chicken in the Orijen?! I think I just assumed it wasn't a chicken formula. That was dumb...and now I am more confused as to the culprit. I still would like to get a picture uploaded to show you guys the rash. I will start on the bland diet until under control and go from there. I will also try to find some necks if I can =)

Connie-the rash is also red. and the diarrhea didn't start until this morning. So day 2 worth of meals. He doesn't have any redness on his paws or any licking of his paws just fyi. My old dog that had allergies used to endlessly lick his feet. and yah the rash was present when we first got him for about a week. I thought after I changed his diet it went away. but I could be wrong. Then he randomly had diarrhea last week for a few days and stopped after I stopped treats (which were chicken). I didn't realize it then, but after he got the rash/diarrhea this time i put two and two together and assumed the culprit was chicken. which, obviously I was wrong considering I had been feeding him chicken kibble all along and didn't realize

Aaron- The people i got him from only had him for a day, where they fed him diamond. Before that, they had no idea what he was fed unfort.

Can you get backs?

oh backs, hmm I have never seen a chicken back? I need to find a supplier, would a local mexican market have something like that?

I've also heard of dogs getting rashes from the amount of sodium in the chicken. (As stated here it's often injected. Someimes it might say flavoring added) I never buy chicken with over 80mg of sodium per serving. Hope it works out.

Yup, quite possible, along with many ethnic markets as well as butcher shops and supermarkets. You often have to ask, but sometimes they are in bags called "soup chicken."

Think of the two common poultry butcher choices: one is just quartered. The other results in two drumsticks, two thighs, two wings, and two breast halves. The backbone and the meat on it (and even kidneys still stuck on: bonus) is not part of that particular option, and many many chickens are butchered that way.

So ask.

I actually found organic SmartChicken backs for about a buck a pound by asking the butcher at the local-chain natural food store down the street what they did with the backs, when I saw that they did many birds with that 8-piece cut. Turned out they used them for their housemade deli stuff like stock and soups but that they were happy to set aside in the freezer in a bag some for me. This is one of the best cuts for dogs from one of the best chicken brands around for a buck -- but I had to ask.

Plenty of folks here get backs for half that by buying in quantity!

Backs are cartilage-y bones ... perfect for beginner raw but really good, period.

Most are not meaty enough to go it alone with no added muscle meat, but that's true of many RMBs.

I would start with peeled RMBs with fat blobs removed too, and half-size meals, not adding anything else until you see perfect poops.

What are the poops like now? Does he still need some diarrhea rice-diet?

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Hope this works...and hope they are clear-ish. I couldn't find my phone charger so I used the webcam

Excuse the shots LOL hes not shy =) and it may be a little aggravated because hes been playing a lot with a friends dog the passed 3 days.

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Yup, quite possible, along with many ethnic markets as well as butcher shops and supermarkets. You often have to ask, but sometimes they are in bags called "soup chicken."

Think of the two common poultry butcher choices: one is just quartered. The other results in two drumsticks, two thighs, two wings, and two breast halves. The backbone and the meat on it (and even kidneys still stuck on: bonus) is not part of that particular option, and many many chickens are butchered that way.

So ask.

I actually found organic SmartChicken backs for about a buck a pound by asking the butcher at the local-chain natural food store down the street what they did with the backs, when I saw that they did many birds with that 8-piece cut. Turned out they used them for their housemade deli stuff like stock and soups but that they were happy to set aside in the freezer in a bag some for me. This is one of the best cuts for dogs from one of the best chicken brands around for a buck -- but I had to ask.

Plenty of folks here get backs for half that by buying in quantity!

Backs are cartilage-y bones ... perfect for beginner raw but really good, period.

Most are not meaty enough to go it alone with no added muscle meat, but that's true of many RMBs.

I would start with peeled RMBs with fat blobs removed too, and half-size meals, not adding anything else until you see perfect poops.

What are the poops like now? Does he still need some diarrhea rice-diet?

Thank you so much for your help! I am going to write some of that down and head to a organic grocery store and ask the butcher =)I am waiting for another BM to see what it looks like.

Looks like contact dermatitis from what I can tell.

What do you have growing in your yard?

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Looks like contact dermatitis from what I can tell.

What do you have growing in your yard?

hmm we have a brand new house and I'm not sure what they are. Do you mind if I take a picture of that too? haha. Maybe someone will know what it is. He rubs up on these bushes, and lays in the grass. Maybe since the other dog is visiting hes been laying in the grass more?