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#26004 - 06/26/2002 01:01 PM |
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Ok, I guess I wasn't very clear in my first post. Dogs socializing when they are young, during training sessions, and with dogs they know isn't what I was referring to. I'm talking about those people who you come into contact with while at the park or out on a walk, who just let their dog walk right up to yours without asking if it's ok. What's that about?? I would never in a million years assume that it was ok to allow my dogs to approach someone else's. It doesn't matter how friendly my dog is, I think that's just downright rude.
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#26005 - 06/26/2002 01:02 PM |
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This may be a kind of lame, halfway solution--but it has worked for me.
My dogs are allowed to play with a small group of "buddies" that are dogs they have been around for a good while (these dogs belong to my friends). Not all the dogs to which I refer can be in the play group at any given time--some females don't like some of the other females, etc. But as time has gone on we have learned which dogs don't like each other much--ALWAYS during closely supervised interactions--and just keep the potential combatants out of the mix. We are also aware of the personalities of these dogs, who is dominant, who is submissive, who gets tired of rough play after awhile.
It's kinda like a private prep school--but it works. The dogs get to play with their fellows, and nobody gets hurt <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . We also don't have to deal with the "Owner From Hell" like some of those folks mentioned in the article...
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#26006 - 06/26/2002 01:15 PM |
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Dog Parks can be guilty pleasure. We take ours over to the one that is close to the house, but only under specific circumstances. First only in "off peak" times. Second we closely watch the interactions of the dogs and OWNERS before we take them in. If there is problem dogs there it is usually evident in the first few minutes by watching the dogs and the reactions of the dogs to the owners. A big thing is how the dogs do "introductions" with other dogs. Lots of "rude" dogs we don't go in. There are times were we know the people that are there and their dogs.
THe other thing is that I watch constantly what is going on. If a problem is going to start, I call my dogs back. If there are dogs that are getting out of hand, we leave.
I wouldn't recomend this for people that can't read their dogs and the other dogs that are there.
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#26007 - 06/26/2002 01:52 PM |
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The thing is I was one of a small percentage of dog owners that could call their dog out of a squabble no problem. Despite all of the "distractions" mine was one of the most obedient dogs in the park. I knew he was a hard player when I started going and I tried to educate the other owners about dog behavior by distributing bibliographies of good dog books, talking about magazines, etc. If this website was running at the time you can bet I would have printed off some of these discussions.
I had him do a sit stay for about a minute when new dogs were let in (mobbing scene) I was the only one to do this.
I was always watching the other dogs, and their owners. After a while, despite the friends and the converts both Max and I made, it was no longer fun. I was given the "evil eye" for having a dog that knew the rules but didn't fit into their little "boxed" idea of what dogs are supposed to be and how they are supposed to act.
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#26008 - 06/26/2002 07:24 PM |
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There is wonderful book that describes the social interactions of dogs. The book is On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals. It was written by Turid Rugaas. She has videos that accompany the book.
The book is barely 30 pages long but is probably the best book I have seen on understanding how to read a dog. dogwise.com carries the book and the videos.
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That was a great article. Sled dogs are generally kept in with their litters for a longer period of time, kept with the bitch for a longer period and intensly socialized with adult dogs from the time they are pretty small. This ensures that later on when they are working in a team that they will know the canine rules of polite behaviour and correct dog language. Makes things much easier down the road. There are a lot of idiots though as you always get people bringing their small mop dogs or badly behaved springers or goldens to dog sled races "to see the sled dogs" and give you awful dirty looks when somebody makes a grab at them for rude behaviour. On leash or at the dogtruck it is the same- people will let their dog drag them over to my dogs and they think it is cute when their unneutered rude dog pesters your female, but will glare and make comments about how aggressive your dog is when she snaps at him. Grrrrr
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I really like Suzanne Clothier. For you tracking people, you should read her "Following Ghosts" article.
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L Swanston - hi, how do we find that article you just mentioned in your post? thanks
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#26012 - 06/26/2002 11:47 PM |
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Richard, He just wants to say "HI! by Suzanne Clothier , Fantastic article, one every K-9 owner should be required to read.
Thanks for the enlightenment! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#26013 - 06/26/2002 11:51 PM |
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I agree, excellent article. Some parents could probably benefit from it in their child rearing as well.
Tiggy2, you'd have to order it, unless you can find someone who has a copy to lend. Check your PMs.
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