Melissa Thom wrote 11/19/2010 02:26 AM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Becky Shilling ] #303616 - 11/19/2010 02:26 AM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	You can use bolt cutters, a saw, etc to tip goat horns. You just have to be exceptionally careful to not hit bone. Honestly unless they're growing into their neck or at a dangerous angle I'd just leave it.
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Will Rambeau wrote 11/19/2010 02:42 AM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Becky Shilling ] #303617 - 11/19/2010 02:42 AM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Goats are *fun* - they often have great personalities and bond to you just like a dog. Nubians are *loud*....get use to that! With Nub/Alpine crosses, you're gonna be up to your knees in milk..... The biggest danger from having horned goats is that they caught in your fencing, but yeah, it's too late to de-bud them now. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T ACCEPT ANY BUCKS!!! You'll hate them.......*a lot*. If you get males from the breeding, slaughter them as soon as possible ( and believe me, it's *hard*, kids are just about the cutest baby animals on the planet ) The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Tammy Moore wrote 11/19/2010 08:59 AM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Will Rambeau ] #303637 - 11/19/2010 08:59 AM
Tammy Moore Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2010 Posts: 1564 Loc: USA Offline	Quote: Will Rambeau The biggest danger from having horned goats is that they caught in your fencing, but yeah, it's too late to de-bud them now. Someone left a Toggenburg X tethered in my yard one day. We moved her to a back pen so we could make a spot for her away from ours, she had horns, ours didn’t. She rolled the chain link fencing in a matter of minutes! I know a farmer that has/does dehorn adult goats, so disgusting, you can see holes in their heads after the procedure. Be careful with your dogs, they can pack a punch with playful head butting, or not so playful! I have recommended to people that “think they want a dog” to get a goat instead. I find them to be playful little acrobats, they’ll follow you everywhere. I have taken our pygmy and Nigerian Dwarf with me to hospital/rehab visits, and they are always a hit. Yes you will be milking teach your dogs like the one in this clip! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8SLTvA39xI
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Becky Shilling wrote 11/19/2010 08:59 AM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Will Rambeau ] #303638 - 11/19/2010 08:59 AM
Becky Shilling Webboard User Reg: 12-01-2005 Posts: 1009 Loc: OKC, Oklahoma Offline	Yeah, boys will become BBQ and dog food. I think I'll let my husband handle that. I'll cook 'em, but I won't kill 'em! Hahaha! Tammy that's hilarious! Edited by Becky Shilling (11/19/2010 09:01 AM) Edit reason: added comment
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ann freier wrote 11/19/2010 01:11 PM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Becky Shilling ] #303674 - 11/19/2010 01:11 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	you'll definitely want a milking stand (handy for a lot of things other than milking; hoof trimming, clipping, vaccinations). get them looking forward to hopping up before they get too heavily pregnant--i used to feed my first kidders up there, and get them used to you handling their udders/teats while they're eating. it'll save a lot of "hind feet in the milk pail" scenarios. and feeding them on the milkstand also gets them used to their head/neck being confined. we will need pics when they're born--kids are THE CUTEST babies...
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Betty Landercasp wrote 11/19/2010 02:08 PM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: ann freier ] #303683 - 11/19/2010 02:08 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	For just a couple of young does that seem to get along, and if this is kind of a "try out" experience, I would not recommend dehorning. It is painful and incredibly gory. Anaesthesia is an absolute must. General anaesthesia is best. THere is blood loss and risk of infection. A pregnant doe might abort from either the experience or the anaesthesia. Horn weights can be attached to shape the horn into a desirable shape. Most goats in small groups do not use their horns much. Resist the urge to play any sort of "head pressing" or butting games. They do like to "itch" their horns. Providing a stump or something similar will help your fence. http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Barbara Schuler wrote 11/19/2010 02:15 PM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Tammy Moore ] #303685 - 11/19/2010 02:15 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: Tammy Moore Yes you will be milking teach your dogs like the one in this clip! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8SLTvA39xI Now that is just creepy... that dog on it's back legs dressed up scares me a bit like clowns do!! LOL! Is it safe to assume you guys are making cheese or selling the milk?
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Tammy Moore wrote 11/19/2010 05:33 PM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #303715 - 11/19/2010 05:33 PM
Tammy Moore Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2010 Posts: 1564 Loc: USA Offline
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Melissa Thom wrote 11/20/2010 01:24 AM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Tammy Moore ] #303762 - 11/20/2010 01:24 AM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	I'd like to second Betty on dehorning adult goats.... it's amazingly gross and painful. We only had to do this once for a very expensive buck that we shipped across country for. It was so horrible. Enjoy your goats. They're such cool animals. I'd like a couple Obers again one day.
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Sharon Empson wrote 11/20/2010 08:40 PM Re: Any Leerburg goat keepers? [Re: Melissa Thom ] #303854 - 11/20/2010 08:40 PM
Sharon Empson Webboard User Reg: 08-27-2007 Posts: 1197 Loc: Offline	This is so interesting...my husband and I discussed getting a couple of goats this weekend. We hoped they would help us with the weeds out back. we won't use chemicals, and don't have as much time as we'd like to weed the back, besides it is 1/4 acre, so we don't like doing it much. We were concerned because of the prey drive of my 3 dogs. We thought the only way to get the dogs to accept them is to treat them like little dogs, get the goats when they are babies, and see if the dogs will accept them. I have 3 terriers, largest one is 22 lbs. We wanted to get pygmy goats. Has anyone had goats and how did they get along with dogs? thanks sharon Sharon Empson
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