 Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Barbara Schuler ]
#303375 - 11/17/2010 07:48 PM |
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Do you know what kind of mix this pup is, I know you said hound but I am wondering what kind exactly.
Hounds are wonderful for tracking and hunting and laying around on your feet. But not at all what I would consider a first choice for intense obedience, herding or protection work.
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: randy allen ]
#303377 - 11/17/2010 08:01 PM |
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tried the uploading pic thing into sig last time someone asked didn't happen. i noticed some people have upload straight into their post but they got a mod correction for doing it. i can do that for you if it is allowed and if it is easy to do? did i mention treeing? i think it was baying. actually versatility dog could describe the original intention of a GSD, as well as a number of other sporting breeds - ah there were no sports dogs when these breeds were invented, so it shouldn't be a surprise that a dog can still do what it was originally bred for. i think the lack of ambition to title and paper has preserved these traits more than hindered them. but isn't this a digression?
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303378 - 11/17/2010 08:10 PM |
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tried the uploading pic thing into sig last time someone asked didn't happen.
Probably easiest: you can link us to a pic in a free Photobucket-type account.
http://photobucket.com/
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303379 - 11/17/2010 08:11 PM |
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Peter, If you upload your pic to a sight like photobucket - it will be assigned an image code #. Go to My Stuff (top grey bar) and then My Preferences, and cut/paste the image code in the signature bar. That should work! 
eta typo
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303386 - 11/17/2010 08:25 PM |
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but isn't this a digression? No. When talking about lack of drive during bitework with a hunting hound, this is all relevant.
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303387 - 11/17/2010 08:30 PM |
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The first thing I would do is introduce food back into your training, from my experience they are highly food driven dogs.
Further while hounds are my dog type of choice, and quite versatile in my opinion, they are not a GSD or a Mal.
Frankly they would probably be my last choice of breeds for SCH or training using pressure from a handler, I would end up with highly stressed dogs and a stressed me!
As you said they are incredibly handler soft, and very sensitive as a rule. They have a high pain threshold, being bred to hunt all manner of game, but that does not translate to requiring strong physical corrections.
I also do agree that one of the old lines of back country hound mutts would be a fun dog to own. Mine don't have the sportiness that a lot of those dogs have and would be useless on an actual hunt.
Well truthfully Loki is useless for very much more than being a wonderful pet and alarm system.
If you want to show a picture you could link us to a picture on photobucket or flickr or some other photo hosting site.
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Jennifer Lee ]
#303416 - 11/17/2010 11:37 PM |
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got onto flickr & photobucket, instructions; sign up to this browser/ this facebook/ start this acccount... my work filters kill it all as quick as i sign up, part of our usage policy i now find out from not amused network manager. if anyone is that interested please send me your email - i will only use it once - and forwrd you an attached image and if you post that i would appreciatte it.
BTW this dog is not being trained for sch. or any similar i'm just having fun seeing what my dog is capable of is all, and learning the training excercises for my own knowledge for no other reason than learning, the dog is not stressed, quite the reverse. nothing beats a hound for what they are bred for, they are not bred for bite sports 'nuff said. dog looks like JL's pic with spots,some litter mates were tan & black like JL's.
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Re: raised thresholds
[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303468 - 11/18/2010 12:25 PM |
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So Peter, what is the question? Ahem, or the problem?
And I'd like to know more about this mystical beast you keep refering to.
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[Re: randy allen ]
#303509 - 11/18/2010 03:13 PM |
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If you are not doing bite work with her, than why are you discussing her reaction to guys in suits and sleeves?
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[Re: Peter Cavallaro ]
#303515 - 11/18/2010 03:41 PM |
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Peter,
I understand and approve of the concept of "working the dog that you have" - I often see new people show up to clubs with their first dog, which may not be perfect for the venue that they want to train in. I usually coach the newcomers to get as much as they can out of their current dog, and to consider it a training experience that will help them when they get a dog with better drives, etc. down the line.
Betty can back me up in this, as she's seen me coach several dog/handler teams that we felt weren't going to get very far with their current dog, but we viewed it as an investment for the future.
However, if a the dog is hampered by it just being a breed that just doesn't do well with the chosen sport ( the pet owner that many years ago showed up with the Pug for tracking classes remains firmly set in my mind.....  ) , the training can just not be very rewarding for either the handler or the dog, and it sounds like you're just at the edge of this happening here.
Just my two cents worth....
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