 Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Katie Finlay ]
#304497 - 11/25/2010 10:42 AM |
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I agree big time about the left leg. If you watch Al's videos, and in fact the second one makes it clear as a bell because of the tiny incremental steps, you see that the left leg is not just the dog's "signal" leg, but it's his guidepost of what to be right next to. I hope I'm saying this clearly.
I might also say that Al's friend's breaking up of the bits of heel (as if he was teaching it brand new) night benefit you too. That is, as Al says, it makes it so very clear that this is a position ... that the hallway, the fence, the speed or absence of movement -- those are just added stuff to what is a position like any other.
That little clip you and your friend made contains great clarity, Al.
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Katie Finlay ]
#304499 - 11/25/2010 11:05 AM |
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Hey Katie, one other little detail from some of the ME stuff that I really like is the way the dog is released with the marker and right away brought back into correct position all on your left side. It really keeps focus and drive up. It also seems to just bring them into correct position without much effort.Also, he never seems to forget to tie his hair back. Small details add up.
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: steve strom ]
#304501 - 11/25/2010 11:15 AM |
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Also, he never seems to forget to tie his hair back. Small details add up.
AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Katie Finlay ]
#304503 - 11/25/2010 11:28 AM |
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You and Conan look very nice 
He gets a little crooked though without the wall (and sometimes with it), so should I be concerned about that having an impact on the final product? I think this is where luring with head up comes in. When the dog holds his head up like that it makes his spine straight.
The food in the hand is used to control the head position. If you do it just so you can make him walk straight even without the wall, it's a bit more difficult, though.
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
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#304513 - 11/25/2010 01:18 PM |
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Lol! Steve, it was brought to my attention that I may need a bow... 
I did some left leg work with Conan this morning. I think he enjoyed the training much better, although we didn't really accomplish anything.
I just stood in the living room and lured him into position and then tossed the treats (we have tile, so they rolled away and he chased them, it was adorable). Usually in one training session he starts offering the behavior. We got close, but instead of him sitting in heel position, he would sit at my left leg facing me. I'd lure him again but I'm a little concerned that he wasn't getting it. I guess maybe this is just a little more complicated than roll over, play dead, etc.
When he sits in heel position, he looks up at me. I think that makes him crooked. Should I be holding his head straight up in the air?
He really seemed to enjoy this morning though, so I'm going to do it a few more times today. He had a tiny breakfast to make up for all the treats!
Thanks everyone and Happy Thanksgiving!!
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Al Curbow ]
#304514 - 11/25/2010 01:24 PM |
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I met a 7 week old corgi at the vets office, it was possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen.
I'm sure it definitely was. I still get all gooey over Conan's baby photos.
Ps. I love the title of that video - "KC out of control"
They were good watches and helpful too - thanks!
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Katie Finlay ]
#304572 - 11/26/2010 11:42 AM |
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"When he sits in heel position, he looks up at me. I think that makes him crooked."
Have you even said sit suddenly while he was heeling straight?
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
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#304573 - 11/26/2010 11:48 AM |
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Probably not. I'll try to get more video tomorrow if Conan's feeling better. He's been throwing up since last night. A vet visit is planned today!
He looks so bored right now. He wants to do something so badly, but I don't want any treats or activity today.
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
[Re: Katie Finlay ]
#304589 - 11/26/2010 02:06 PM |
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Sounds like the crooked sit is something your worried about. Simply don't reward the crooked ones and break off with a simple "Nope"! The dog needs a negative for noncompliance. With marker training that's loss of reward and you saying so.
"IF" the dog really understands the marker then put the reward in you pocket. He knows the "yes" means reward. He'll learn to trust that it WILL come even if not in plain site.
When working in my basement I kept the food reward on particular shelf. When I marked "yes" the dogs would immediately run for that shelf.
Did they break the position? Not really because I had marked and told them the behavior was correct/over and the reward was coming.
Same thing for heeling for a tug. That tug may be across the yard or we may even walk right over it. Without focus on me it's not going to happen. It's a reward, not a bribe!
As they understand the process, the don't NEED to see the reward because they trust that it WILL come with the marker.
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Re: Focused Heeling - yep, a training thread!
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#304590 - 11/26/2010 02:10 PM |
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Also, Ivan B's dvd "the game" shows the value of teaching the left leg position.
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