The dog must have respect for you to the point that no matter what happens he will not act up.
To get that kind of respect you may have to use strong punishment that boards on abuse. To me abuse is giving a dog pain for no benifit to the dog. Punishment is painfull, I will apply the amount of pain that is required. Required meaning that 1. I have a plan, and 2. that plan allows for the dog to avoid the punishment according to his behavior, 3. That I am not emotional at the time. It is up to the dog how much punishment is required. But it is better for the dog to recieve some punishment and be stable, than to never get punishment, and be unstable. The way you use a pinch collar is a correction. There is a difference between a correction and punishment.
Humankind is drawn to dogs because they are so like ourselves- bumbling, affectionate, confused, eaily disappointed, eager to be amused, grateful for kindness and the least attention Pam Brown
Thanks Orville. We are going to start working on it at the club Wednesday night. I am also going to start being stricter during our AKC obed class which is tonight. I take him there just to get him around a bunch of new dogs. He wears his prong and never acts up anymore but without it he will if the right dog comes in. My goal is to be able to be in class with just his choker and have him behave.
Hopefully when you come up in Jan, he'll be much improved.
Well, I must sound like a real idiot. But I'm not trying to. What's the process to control an aggressive dog of this size? I thought previous posts by Orv indicated flanking the daylights out of the dog? What would be whole process be?
Flanking can piss a dog off. I don't want to promote flanking, but I want my dogs to know that I can give them extreme corrections with nothing but my hands. It is not a quick, "I got you", flank; but one where I have him in the air by the neck and flank for several seconds. If my dog shows any aggression I can correct him with my hands across the muzzle. He accepts this knowing that he is one step away from being flanked.
At the same time I give my dogs a lot of love with my hands, too. There has to be balance.
Humankind is drawn to dogs because they are so like ourselves- bumbling, affectionate, confused, eaily disappointed, eager to be amused, grateful for kindness and the least attention Pam Brown
Originally posted by Roz Kovacs: Well, I must sound like a real idiot. But I'm not trying to. What's the process to control an aggressive dog of this size? I thought previous posts by Orv indicated flanking the daylights out of the dog? What would be whole process be? I intend to start off trying the least harsh method and going from there as needed. I will start by putting him in a down and/or sit and having a dog walked by, if he reacts he gets a level 20 correction with his prong collar. Then I will progress to his choker. If this does not work then I will use an e-collar.
Orv-Thanks for the clarification. I'm pretty sure I understand where you're coming from and I agree. That's how I feel too for uncalled for aggression, especially towards people.
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