Reg: 08-31-2005
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While I agree that given a command the dog should stay in that position until released I do teach a stay simply as a way of helping cue the dog. Stay means you can relax, you aren't going anywhere til I get back to your side. I do agility with both my guys as well as obedience and schH, so while they will down till they are released there is a difference between the intense watch every body cue to see if I might call them to do something and knowing I won't so they can relax a bit and take a snooze if they want. Wait is for anything I will call them out of, to include agility, crates, doors,etc.
Good explanation Sarah. "Stay" is a way to tell them this is a long-term proposition, and I'm not going to ask them to do anything else but heel, so they can indeed hang out in that position until I return. Nobody else in my ring club teaches the stay this way. However, I can pat my dog on the butt here (or myself on the back) and tell you Laya has the best 'stays' in the club (sitting, standing, or down) under distraction.
I didn't do any sports with Sierra; she was a companion dog.
I taught "stay" as don't move from the postion and place I put you in until I release you. I taught "wait" as hang out here in this general area and I'll pay attention to you in a minute or so.
I found "wait" the most useful when we were at the door and I realized I had forgotten something. I would tell Sierra to wait while I went back upstairs to get the forgotten something. If I didn't tell her to wait, she would follow me everywhere.
The other time it was useful was when we were coming inside and she had muddy or wet feet. I'd tell her to "wait" while I closed and locked the door and took off my boots and then I would dry/clean her feet and send her on her way.
My plan is for personal protection. I'm having JD evaluated next week, although I'm pretty sure he'll pass with flying colors. He has alot of natural ability and has already taken to the bite pillow quite well.
JD's mother, father and grandfather are all working K9's. The breeder I got him from is a Sherriff's detective and JD's grandfather is Rick's actual working K9.
I have also considered Mondio Ring sport but that's still jut a thought.
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