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Big off-topic: THANK YOU for a training thread! MORE! Heck, "sit" would be a joy when we have pages of "non-dog chat" unbroken by training. The don-dog chat is fine, it's great, but if we could balance it .....
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i teach articles off track and then add them to the track when the dog is tracking well and continue to reinforce off track. How does everyone else handle articles?
Very recently I heard about this interesting concept of using a LOT of articles or replacing food completely with lots of articles for very young puppies. Indication taught off-track.
This way the dog learns to take their time and relax while on track. Articles used as markers. I haven't tried this yet but will be definitely looking into it.
Big off-topic: THANK YOU for a training thread! MORE! Heck, "sit" would be a joy when we have pages of "non-dog chat" unbroken by training. The don-dog chat is fine, it's great, but if we could balance it .....
I don't do Schutzhund anymore but when I did...I taught articles off the track & then added them on the track later on when regulation SchH I length tracks were solid.
I would then add them onto longer II & III length tracks once those tracks were solid.
In the videos Ivan recommends introducing articles as soon as the puppy goes off the circular tracks. It adds purpose to the task, allows for more reps and gives the puppy a chance to rest on longer or more difficult tracks.
I hope very much that having started with circle tracks we'll have fewer problems with leash pressure later. It's a big part of Michael Ellis system but might create problems for dogs that are used to pulling like a train down the track, I've been told.
Circle tracks are a great option for training dogs that pull on a track to slow down. They eliminate the opposition reflex that pulling on a leash can encourage.
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