This is just a continuation of the thread that was closed. I always like to look at both sides and understand what the lawyers are saying. I feel that these people are just trying to give valid info and protecting us from litigations. I also feel that they are like me and never really observed the damage that a biting dog can do. I have to trust my friends on this board with all their years of experience. We all love our dogs and I for one will not live my life regretting that I didn’t take the proper action if another loose dog attacks my dog. There is a big gray area here friend or foe. I think our instincts will direct us in the right direction.
I hear what you are saying. I have a healthy respect for those on this board who will not sugar coat their responses. I, like yourself, have not had a problem with a strange dog attacking my dog or me while walking along. I remember reading Vince's post some time ago when he spoke of his disabled freind, and thinking "shit...that sucks". I do agree that we cannot let legal mumbo jumbo paranoia prevent us from excerising the basic right to defend one's self and dog. Advice from lawyers needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. That being said though, I do think that some of the criticism on what Torre was trying to say may have been a little harsh. I don't think that he was posting his thoughts with the intention of starting a war. Hey...just my opinion as I respect those who took a more stern opposition to Torre's post. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Doesn't it seem obvious to everyone that the only two posts theis "Kilpatrick" have put up are just on argumentative topics. Nothing constructive or about training dogs. Some people just don't understand what is really going on so they sit in their little wannabe utopian world and criticize us out here in the REAL world. Again, I will say that if a dog comes at my dog and I and won't back off with fair warning, than it is getting this cool 10% pepper stuff right in the face.
I agree that this person is just trying to start trouble. I was refering to the original thread with Torre. I think the guy was roughed up a bit that's all. I do respect and appreciate your honesty though.
I feel exactly the same way as you when it comes to defending my dog and me.
I'm very sorry you guys took my posts as combative. I saw the earlier disputes, tried to find the answers for my own benefit, and thought you'd be curious to hear what I turned up. I did not realize it would be taken as an insult.
Van Camp, with all due respect, "my buddy" that I quoted is not someone I know. It is the best known dog law expert in the United States. And when you say the dog running at you is aggressive, you changed the situation discussed earlier that did not involve in any way a dog running at you. A dog running at you aggressively would of course justify defensive action including pepper.
Again, my apologies for giving the impression that I was trying to start trouble. No need to ask for me to be kicked off. I will retire voluntarily.
Regards,
Anthony
OK... I give up. Once again, sorry everyone for being baited. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I'll let it die so we can get back to talking dog training.
I reread Anthony's post, and am at a lose at to why there's a big problem with it. It
seems to me to be common sense. Where is Anthony being contentious? He's
giving a reasonable opinion, based on what seems to be reasonable advice. I do
carry pepper spray and would have no problem using it if I felt there was a
reasonable threat. I don't see an unleashed dog as a reasonable threat in and of
itself. Let's be honest here, most unleashed dogs do not pose a real danger to you
or your dog. I know a lot if people are going to disagree, but it's been my
experience in 25 yrs of walking dogs. I know there are "horror stories" that show
the opposite but these are not the norm.
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