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#27188 - 05/22/2002 11:52 AM |
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Ok, here we go. First off, I don't necessarily agree the dog should be put down. We are all jumping to conclusions here. Who said the dog had bad nerves??? Where did that come up. We don't know anything about the bite. What was the situation? What was the woman doing? Where did this occur? The dog regripped several times...this means what???
As far as the owner, yes he is a moron.
As far as the dog, I see at least 3 dogs a week that the owner has been told to put down. About 1 out of 30 of these, actually should be put down. It was mentioned the dog is dominant. If that is the case in the dogs mind it can do whatever it wants. If it is the leader, it can bit when it wants. It can jump on whoever, heck its the dogs house...it can urinate in the house if it wants. There needs to be more info on this dog before everyone automatically decides, bad nerves put it down.
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Re: Bad bite
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#27189 - 05/22/2002 04:18 PM |
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I took the 3 or 4 re-grip line to mean that this was closer to an attack rather than a simple bite, and when considering the physical condition of this dog along with the behavioral issues(which are not found in SOUND Golden Retrievers) led to my thought that maybe the dog should be put down. Whoa...that was one long ass sentence! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I will say though that Todd, you do raise a good point on how its sometimes hard to know what's really going on without first hand seeing the dog in action. There is a tendency here(myself included) to jump the gun sometimes.
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#27190 - 05/22/2002 04:20 PM |
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Todd, check your private messages.
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Re: Bad bite
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#27191 - 05/22/2002 04:40 PM |
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Responding to a question such as this, you have only what info is given. I trouble shoot problems worldwide via telephone and internet. Using the phone I can ascertain info by leading to the questions that need answers.
Internet not as easy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I too am guilty of jumping the gun on answers. On the other hand, I don't think this dog owner will get involved with with a knowlegable person as Todd. Again my be passing judgement to soon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Lets hope something is done before another incident!!
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Re: Bad bite
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#27192 - 05/22/2002 04:45 PM |
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I checked my messages...is there a new one??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Just to play devils advocate...even if it was an attack, the situation surrounding the attack is vital to knowing the temperament of the dog. Now before everyone gets in an uproar, no I don't believe a dog should attack a human just cuz.
I am simply wondering what happened. Was the woman who always walked the dog around his food? By his favorite toy? By a bone? AS with everything there are always 2 sides to a story.
I just am very leary to say put a dog down. I see it all the time(like I mentioned before).
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#27193 - 05/22/2002 04:49 PM |
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...and therein lies the BIGGEST problem. Butch nailed it:
Todd, you know yourself... how many people in worsening binds with seriously addled dogs ever take the time or trouble to DO SOMETHING about it? I can only think of a couple in my whole lifetime (45+ years <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> ) who did. Usually things only get worse.
If it was my own dog, I would train the snot out of him and if that didn't begin to affect his behavior in a noticeably positive way, he'd be on his way for a shot. Unpredictability in dogs is the most worrisome trait of all.
But something tells me this guy is the kind who couldn't train a gerbil.
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Re: Bad bite
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#27194 - 05/22/2002 04:57 PM |
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Ahhh....but see you have changed the scenario...
But something tells me this guy is the kind who couldn't train a gerbil.
This has changed from a dangerous dog...to a more dangerous animal...a person who doesn't have any knowledge or care to gain any knowledge.
So in this particular case, I don't necessarily believe it is the dog. Something as simple as putting it in a crate could take care of 90% of the issues. So we put this dog down...any of you who train for a living tell me...what is the percentage chance this 'intelligent' human being is going to decide something was wrong with the dog and get another??? Then do the exact same thing with it?
Putting the dog down is not the answer...education is. Now of course how do you educate someone who 'knows it all' and doesn't 'need' to be educated?
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Re: Bad bite
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#27195 - 05/22/2002 05:18 PM |
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I hate threads like this. A friend of a cousin's aunt's buddy's dog bit this guy on his sack and I am wondering what the board thinks?
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Pete said it. Train the snot outa the dog.
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Re: Bad bite
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#27196 - 05/22/2002 05:18 PM |
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Todd,
Nope...no new ones. I was just cleaning out my PM's and noticed that they weren't read.
So true is the fact that when your dealing with an idiot it's tough to fix anything. If not put the dog down, I only wish he would give the dog to someone who knows what they are doing. Who knows, maybe that would save the dogs life and also prevent someone else from getting badly bitten.
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Re: Bad bite
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#27197 - 05/22/2002 05:22 PM |
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Todd,
That was a good post, The biggest problem I see is that dog owners never think they are the problem. EDUCATION?EDUCATION
Or it's the same with their children, always not my kid!
I didn't like the dog biting a few times, I get hit every now and then, but not more then once. per session
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