Re: Scratching And Itching
[Re: Michael_Wise ]
#318171 - 02/23/2011 01:21 PM |
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What makes you think psoriasis? Wouldn't there be some visual indicators accompanying the itching?
Yes. Scaly plaque. Sometimes red or pink, sometimes silvery-grayish.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318172 - 02/23/2011 01:35 PM |
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I suspect a few things are going on.
* Assuming it's not fleas, mites, or anything else that crawls in the night*
I suspect your dog's skin is very likely overdry which causes itching. Biogroom doesn't make very good shampoos and I have known several owners who have used it resulting in bad skin reactions - I know I can't use it on skin sensitive dogs, I'd try to switch brands to something a little better like Tropiclean or doubleK with a brand matching conditioner. Stay away from people shampoos. Wash twice, condition, rinse until water runs clear.
Make sure you are using an omega 3 suppliment like fish oil. Skin heals from the inside out and omega 3 will help any inflammation.
Make sure the gorp in your dogs ears isn't a yeast problem. I would also suggest removing all sugars from your dogs diet if you're having ear discharge issues.
good luck.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318174 - 02/23/2011 01:41 PM |
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"Since childhood she has a habit of scratching. Mostly she scratches below armpits of front legs. She dose not have any Flea or Tik in her for sure. Most of the time she keeps on scratching."
My psoriasis starts when I was kid I like to scratch one part of my body, the immune system keeps re-building the skin cell and now becomes psoriasis.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318176 - 02/23/2011 01:45 PM |
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Yes, I agree that more than one thing might be going on there.
Good points about fish oil, vitamin E, and good shampoo, all of which should be addressed regardless of what else is going on. JMO.
My first focus would be on the classic base-of-tail flea-spot.
I know how hard it is to believe that your dog is suffering flea exposure, especially when you see none, are not being bitten yourself (but fleas will always choose a dog if there is one available), and keep the dog clean.
I don't mean to generalize, and there probably is more than one thing happening here, but if my dog had a classic flea-spot itch featured this way, fleas would be my first item.
Unfortunately, many dogs with flea hypersensitivity also have atopy. But one step at a time, and the simplest issue to address first is fleas, along with good shampoo and fish oil plus E.
ETA
Looking back, I see that I slightly mis-read this.
Does this "She also wants us to scratch her in the area just above the tail" mean that the dog too bites that area? That's what I first thought I read.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318185 - 02/23/2011 02:59 PM |
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I suspect a few things are going on.
* Assuming it's not fleas, mites, or anything else that crawls in the night*
I suspect your dog's skin is very likely overdry which causes itching. Biogroom doesn't make very good shampoos and I have known several owners who have used it resulting in bad skin reactions - I know I can't use it on skin sensitive dogs, I'd try to switch brands to something a little better like Tropiclean or doubleK with a brand matching conditioner. Stay away from people shampoos. Wash twice, condition, rinse until water runs clear.
Make sure you are using an omega 3 suppliment like fish oil. Skin heals from the inside out and omega 3 will help any inflammation.
Make sure the gorp in your dogs ears isn't a yeast problem. I would also suggest removing all sugars from your dogs diet if you're having ear discharge issues.
good luck.
When I was having problems with JD itching (until I determined it was from the blackberry bushes) I would use the EpiSoothe shampoo and conditioner that I got at my vet's. It seemed to make a big difference in his comfort level until we got the mystery solved.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318200 - 02/23/2011 04:02 PM |
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Dear Connie and Wendy,
There is always lot of dark brown wax in her ears which i clean every 15 days. earlier i used to walk her in garden and playground but now i walk her on promenade just to check there is no pollen but there is no difference.
I just wanted to point out one thing about pollen. Mostly the pollen is not visible, but in the air. Your dog can still breathe in the pollen dust and have atopy.
One great resource is http://www.pollen.com
and you can look to see what the pollen counts are in your area.
Many times the high numbers will coincide with an itchy dog.
This is just what I have found to be helpful.
Keep in mind though, I have done intra-dermal skin testing, so I know the list of her triggers are.
Mold, pollens, dust, dust mites to name a few, all of them inhalant allergens.
Joyce Salazar
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318205 - 02/23/2011 04:46 PM |
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Good catch, Joyce. It's inhalant, as opposed to contact.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318210 - 02/23/2011 05:02 PM |
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Shailesh, I just realized you are in India, and this pollen site is for the U.S, so that won't be helping you at all. Sorry about that.
But I am wondering though if you might have something like that available to you where you live. It is worth while to check out for the future.
Also, one thing that is really helpful is keeping a log for your dog. Record things like the intensity of the itch, if the dog is up during the night. If you can locate pollen info, write that down.
You may start to notice a pattern forming. If when you do see a Derm Vet, you can show this to them and it may help them to help you as well.
FWIW, all of us with itchy dogs with allergies, we know what you are going through. It can be very frustrating and difficult.
But I can tell you that many dogs who have inhalant allergies, there can be many, so numerous that you may have to do several things in order to make the dog comfortable.
If you can see a Derm vet, and get intradermal testing, it will give you an idea what you are dealing with so you know what to do so you can avoid as many of them as you can.
It can tell you if your dog is also flea bite hypersensitive.
This is really important, because once you know this, you will then have to follow a pretty strict flea control protocol.
One flea bite can send a sensitive dog into a really bad itch cycle. So, very worthwhile info to obtain from a derm vet if one is available to you.
Joyce Salazar
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318338 - 02/24/2011 10:26 AM |
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Dear Connie,
(I use only Frontline and only if needed) Means i dont use Frontline regularly and use only if i see couple of fleas or ticks on her which is rarely. I always check her regularly and specially when bathing her.
I am cleaning her ears with cotton wrapped to my finger and the gunk is healthy looking and comes out easily. I apply few drops Tea Tree oil cleaning soultion when cleaning.
Hope this helps.
Shailesh Sheth.
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Re: Scratching And Itching
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#318339 - 02/24/2011 10:35 AM |
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My question about the ear's appearance was more about whether it was pale and pink or inflamed-looking under the gunk.
But also, that's good info about the gunk. You mean it's not blackish or slimy or odorous (any of those)?
I do suspect flea exposure. Seeing a couple of fleas isn't what prompts me to use Frontline with my dog who has flea bite sensitivity (many names for flea hypersensitivity) .... I go by sudden scratching on the legs and base of tail. There are other classic flea spots, but you mentioned both of these, and they happen to be the two that get my dog first.
Also, is the dog on fish oil and E?
And I would read and re-read Joyce's post above. The journal suggestion is crucial, IMO, including time of day, weather, and season.
I would start these things now. Also:
... I know how hard it is to believe that your dog is suffering flea exposure, especially when you see none, are not being bitten yourself (but fleas will always choose a dog if there is one available), and keep the dog clean.
I don't mean to generalize, and there probably is more than one thing happening here, but if my dog had a classic flea-spot itch featured this way, fleas would be my first item.
Unfortunately, many dogs with flea hypersensitivity also have atopy. But one step at a time, and the simplest issue to address first is fleas, along with good shampoo and fish oil plus E.
2nd eta
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1587&aid=595
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