Barbara Schuler wrote 02/24/2011 06:24 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318434 - 02/24/2011 06:24 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Hi Tam, Here is the link to your first post: http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=173&Number=312579&Searchpage=2&Main=28758&Words=tam+haga&topic=0&Search=true#Post312579 I found it by clicking on your name and then "search posts" and voila! Check it over again and see if there is any information which you might try to help solving this issue... Once we get the dog to the point of not being so reactive with the children, they might very well be able to assist with training. And absolutely let them listen to all the podcasts!! The more folks who are all on the same page as to how to manage this situation, the better.
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 02/24/2011 06:25 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318435 - 02/24/2011 06:25 PM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	I don't think Tammy intended to be insulting. The idea of 9 kids is enough to make most people feel tired! What I got from her post was that she questioned the breeder's ethics in selling a dog they didn't have time for to a person who is obviously very busy. I don't think she was questioning your ability to handle responsibility at all.
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steve strom wrote 02/24/2011 06:39 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318438 - 02/24/2011 06:39 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: With all that said. My current plan of action is to wait until the weather warms up to create a training situation where I take the dog out with the children and expose her to them playing football. I will have her on a loooong rope to allow her ample room to play football with the boys. IF she reacts in an undesirable way, I will yank in the rope (she should feel the tug) and say, "nein ... off". I don't think thats a good plan. Your allowing her to do something wrong with the kids, your not in a position to correct her in a way that will make the right association with what is wrong and one of your sons could get bit before you can do anything. Have you tried teaching her a place command? With that you can keep her at a distance where she can watch and you can control her. I think when it comes to kids and dogs, you are better off not letting things get started then having to stop them.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/24/2011 06:58 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: steve strom ] #318444 - 02/24/2011 06:58 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: steve strom  Quote: With all that said. My current plan of action is to wait until the weather warms up to create a training situation where I take the dog out with the children and expose her to them playing football. I will have her on a loooong rope to allow her ample room to play football with the boys. IF she reacts in an undesirable way, I will yank in the rope (she should feel the tug) and say, "nein ... off". I don't think thats a good plan. Your allowing her to do something wrong with the kids, your not in a position to correct her in a way that will make the right association with what is wrong and one of your sons could get bit before you can do anything. Have you tried teaching her a place command? With that you can keep her at a distance where she can watch and you can control her. I think when it comes to kids and dogs, you are better off not letting things get started then having to stop them. I agree 100%. Except that I'll say that I think it's a terrible idea. And I do not mean it any more personally than Tammy means her post (IMO). I know you're feeling overwhelmed with suggestions and new info. I completely get that. But managing the dog comes before training the dog, and teaching the dog a wanted behavior WAY trumps correcting for unwanted behaviors. Setting up the dog for corrections in this way, and with kids besides ... not a good idea.
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tam haga wrote 02/24/2011 07:17 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #318447 - 02/24/2011 07:17 PM
tam haga Webboard User Reg: 01-11-2011 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	Quote: barbara schuler Hi Tam, Here is the link to your first post: http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=173&Number=312579&Searchpage=2&Main=28758&Words=tam+haga&topic=0&Search=true#Post312579 I found it by clicking on your name and then "search posts" and voila! Check it over again and see if there is any information which you might try to help solving this issue... Once we get the dog to the point of not being so reactive with the children, they might very well be able to assist with training. And absolutely let them listen to all the podcasts!! The more folks who are all on the same page as to how to manage this situation, the better. Thanks )
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Barbara Schuler wrote 02/24/2011 07:17 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #318448 - 02/24/2011 07:17 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: connie sutherland  Quote: steve strom  Quote: With all that said. My current plan of action is to wait until the weather warms up to create a training situation where I take the dog out with the children and expose her to them playing football. I will have her on a loooong rope to allow her ample room to play football with the boys. IF she reacts in an undesirable way, I will yank in the rope (she should feel the tug) and say, "nein ... off". I don't think thats a good plan. Your allowing her to do something wrong with the kids, your not in a position to correct her in a way that will make the right association with what is wrong and one of your sons could get bit before you can do anything. Have you tried teaching her a place command? With that you can keep her at a distance where she can watch and you can control her. I think when it comes to kids and dogs, you are better off not letting things get started then having to stop them. I agree 100%. Except that I'll say that I think it's a terrible idea. And I do not mean it any more personally than Tammy means her post (IMO). I know you're feeling overwhelmed with suggestions and new info. I completely get that. But managing the dog comes before training the dog, and teaching the dog a wanted behavior WAY trumps correcting for unwanted behaviors. Setting up the dog for corrections in this way, and with kids besides ... not a good idea. And much, much better information/advice than my referencing a past post which didn't help... Good grief.
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tam haga wrote 02/24/2011 07:30 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #318451 - 02/24/2011 07:30 PM
tam haga Webboard User Reg: 01-11-2011 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	Quote: Lauren Jeffery I don't think Tammy intended to be insulting. The idea of 9 kids is enough to make most people feel tired! What I got from her post was that she questioned the breeder's ethics in selling a dog they didn't have time for to a person who is obviously very busy. I don't think she was questioning your ability to handle responsibility at all. So it is possibly bad ethics to sell a GSD to a full household? That says the same thing to me. I once felt the way most of you do. I couldn't imagine a person having SEVEN kids and I fussed about it. Of course I now feel differently. To be honest, I don't see how people can successfully manage multiple dogs even without children... but now that I know what I know, I realize that I am not in the place to judge. I don't see these comments as being productive or aiding in my efforts to train. Take care.
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randy allen wrote 02/24/2011 07:37 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318453 - 02/24/2011 07:37 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	Okay Tam, Here's a clue, unless your children 'know' the rules of the game, there is no chance, absolutely no chance your dog will. Get it?
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 02/24/2011 07:37 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318454 - 02/24/2011 07:37 PM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	Tam, I didn't want you to get mad over something that was unintentional. I'm sorry to have offended you. Its a big task to have all that going on. But if you want to be snippy over a clarification, go ahead. You take care, lady! See ya.
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Barbara Schuler wrote 02/24/2011 07:38 PM Re: Kids run, dog gets over excited ... [Re: tam haga ] #318455 - 02/24/2011 07:38 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Tam, PLEASE do NOT let this one issue have you "sign off". You would be having the exact same situation if you had three children running around with this dog at this time - really. Don't let one comment get between the experienced folks helping you and your pup, okay? (All good moms get defensive about their children - I do understand.) I've stepped on my twinkie before and said things which came out wrong - many of us have... just let this one go, okay?
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