steve strom wrote 03/17/2011 04:10 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: phaedra rieff ] #322458 - 03/17/2011 04:10 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Yes. The bones are already balanced.
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Joyce Salazar wrote 03/17/2011 04:13 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: phaedra rieff ] #322459 - 03/17/2011 04:13 PM
Joyce Salazar Webboard User Reg: 02-28-2008 Posts: 2075 Loc: Dallas, Texas Offline	I would say yes, if you are feeding adequate bones, I would remove the added calcium from the diet. How much bone to meat are you feeding? I am unsure what you meant with "even though I'm not giving him parts with tins of bone? Joyce Salazar
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phaedra rieff wrote 03/17/2011 04:16 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: Joyce Salazar ] #322461 - 03/17/2011 04:16 PM
phaedra rieff Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2010 Posts: 741 Loc: bc, canada Offline	Quote: joyce salazar How much bone to meat are you feeding? I am unsure what you meant with "even though I'm not giving him parts with tins of bone? Sorry, I meant to type - "tons" of bone. Right now I'm only feeding the backs, not leg or necks. I realize the bones are balanced, I just don't know if I'm feeding enough of them? I just don't want to mess up his calcium, being that he's a 6 month old GSD.
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Joyce Salazar wrote 03/17/2011 04:18 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: phaedra rieff ] #322463 - 03/17/2011 04:18 PM
Joyce Salazar Webboard User Reg: 02-28-2008 Posts: 2075 Loc: Dallas, Texas Offline	Ok, sorry. If you are feeding backs, and getting a decent ratio of RBM's to meat, that would be good enough. You could stop the calcium supplements. eta, that is the wonderful thing about feeding raw, the bones have the perfect package of calcium to phosphorus ratio in them. As long as you are feeding adequate RMB's you will be fine. Also, the poop really tells the story. Joyce Salazar
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Tracy Collins wrote 03/17/2011 05:15 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: Joyce Salazar ] #322475 - 03/17/2011 05:15 PM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Agree with Joyce. Just transition the calcium supplement out of the diet as your transition in the RMBs, over, say, three or four days until you are all RMB, no cooked meat, no calcium. You definitely don't want to feed supplemental calcium to a large breed pup. Poop will tell. Small and firm = everything's okay. Dry and crumbly = too much bone. Soft could be any number of things, but chief among them is too little bone. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/17/2011 05:20 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: Tracy Collins ] #322478 - 03/17/2011 05:20 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Tracy Collins Agree with Joyce. Just transition the calcium supplement out of the diet as your transition in the RMBs, over, say, three or four days until you are all RMB, no cooked meat, no calcium. I agree. Ca supplements should be a thing of the past once RMBs are the basis of the diet.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/17/2011 05:23 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: phaedra rieff ] #322482 - 03/17/2011 05:23 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: phaedra rieff Sorry, I meant to type - "tons" of bone. Right now I'm only feeding the backs, not leg or necks. I realize the bones are balanced, I just don't know if I'm feeding enough of them? I just don't want to mess up his calcium, being that he's a 6 month old GSD. Backs have a good Ca/P ratio and can be a fine RMB as the base of a raw diet. Backs can be the only RMB for a while, in fact, as his enzyme manufacturing gears up for his new food. They have such nice digestible cartilage-y bone.
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phaedra rieff wrote 03/17/2011 05:54 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #322491 - 03/17/2011 05:54 PM
phaedra rieff Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2010 Posts: 741 Loc: bc, canada Offline	Ok. Yesterday he had a mix of cooked and raw meat. Today, he has had: Breakfast - 7oz raw backs (chopped not minced, not get him chewing, which he did). 2.5oz quinoa 2oz green beans snack - 1 hardboiled egg 1oz yogurt 2oz beans/broccoli salmon oil+e He also had a TON of exercise today, running and swimming for the frisbee, which usually softens the poop a bit. He did have 1 poop this afternoon. It was pretty small, the poops were thinner than normal, but formed and separated, however, they were soft. Perhaps add in a bit of a thigh? I'm hacking everything up anyhow... ETA: I just went outside to pick up the poop (didn't have a baggie before), and noticed that it had a fair bit of carrot in it, which he hasn't had since his "midnight snack" last night. So, I'm wondering if the softer poop is left over from last night's snack and today's vigorous exercise, or a combo of yesterday's and today's food?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/17/2011 06:16 PM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: phaedra rieff ] #322493 - 03/17/2011 06:16 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	No calcium supplementation is needed for that meal plan. "Perhaps add in a bit of a thigh?" If you mean for increased bone, not necessary. If you mean can you add other chicken RMBs besides backs, sure, but backs are a very good one to stay on for a few days or a week (or more) while he is a beginner. Also, why not stick with backs until you have a very good poop reference for comparison? Then additions can be gauged against a "perfect poop."
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phaedra rieff wrote 03/18/2011 01:29 AM Re: Home cooked to Raw transition [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #322557 - 03/18/2011 01:29 AM
phaedra rieff Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2010 Posts: 741 Loc: bc, canada Offline	He just had his first real poop from today's diet of raw backs, quinoa and green beans - it was totally normal!
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