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[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#328527 - 04/19/2011 09:14 PM |
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You can tell how 'tight' a dew claw is connected by ..well... wiggling it.  Is it floating around with the skin if you pinch and pull on it? Or is it tightly anchored?
Some breeds have the dew claws removed when the pups are a few days old. Some are also prone to double dews. It really depends on the breeder. In the Dutch Shepherd standard, it stated no dewclaws. *shrug* My dog has them!
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Re: Managing dew claws
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#328531 - 04/19/2011 09:39 PM |
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Many, many breeds and breeders remove dewclaws at 3-5 days. In the groomed breeds like the poodle, it's practical to avoid clipper nicks, maybe.
The hunting dog owners say the dewclaws snag on vegetation, but you don't see that often. The dewclaw can develop a long nail with a super long quick , they can be tough to trim.
I always hated doing it, the pups cry miserably, anaesthesia is not used, or never was when I did it. No anaesthesia for the tails either.
The cold tail discussion made me wonder if some of the breeds with a docked tail were prone to cold tail, might as well cut it off early and spare that issue.
My backyard bred dog had a butcher job done on his dews-he has nubs on both feet, very amateur. I bet residual pain could result . Maybe some dogs who hate having their feet touched have sensations of which we are not aware.
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[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#328534 - 04/19/2011 09:43 PM |
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I've seen botched dew claw jobs too Betty. I've seen a couple dogs where the joint was not removed, and a terrible malformed nail grew back.
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[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#328535 - 04/19/2011 09:44 PM |
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Yes, my former girl's breeder did it before she was shipped to me.
I know it's nutty -but if there was a simple plastic surgery procedure for ears -maybe just to advance some skin -to affect a longer, more pleasing crop -well, I'd be sorely tempted...sigh
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[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#328542 - 04/19/2011 09:51 PM |
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...yeah...but on a serious note, maybe for Dr. Betty and any other techs or DVMs (I know nothing about cropping) -when clients ask for a super short crop, do you ever offer aesthetic advice? Of course some vets I used to work for wouldn't declaw or dock...but if someone came in and said, hey, take this beautiful AmStaff and basically hack off her ears -do you try to steer at least to a longer show crop?
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[Re: Betty Landercasp ]
#328543 - 04/19/2011 09:51 PM |
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Betty, I did my own dews on the pups at 3 days after seeing how the vet did them in Colorado. There really wasn't much to it and they didn't even cry. As of 6 years ago it's still done no anesthesia, although they did do a local for the tail docks. Some vets like to throw a stitch in for each foot, personally I can't see doing it unless you happen to get a puppy with double dewclaws. A scab is far less worry for infection than a stitch.
I always assumed with bird dogs that docked tails had more to do with taxes than any health issue. Almost every dog I've ever heard of with cold tail was a lab which as far as I know has always historically had a tail.
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[Re: HILARIE COBY ]
#328546 - 04/19/2011 09:57 PM |
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...yeah...but on a serious note, maybe for Dr. Betty and any other techs or DVMs (I know nothing about cropping) -when clients ask for a super short crop, do you ever offer aesthetic advice? Of course some vets I used to work for wouldn't declaw or dock...but if someone came in and said, hey, take this beautiful AmStaff and basically hack off her ears -do you try to steer at least to a longer show crop?
Hilarie, this is another topic entirely. Maybe you should start one about crops if you want to know how the crop type, and set is typically chosen, along with how to find a decent vet who can do different crop types, and how aftercare can screw up what could have been a really decent crop.
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[Re: Melissa Thom ]
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You're right Melissa -sorry -but I guessed Jenny got her dew claw question answered so didn't mean to hijack...anyway, what's done is done...
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[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#328551 - 04/19/2011 10:09 PM |
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Didn't we have a thread here a while back about dewclaws and some dogs having residual nerve pain from having them removed? Maybe I'm imagining that or maybe it was another board. I tried doing a search and found a lot of previous posts about dewclaws but not the specific topic I was looking for. Anybody else remember it?
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