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Welcome to the forum, Rob! I don't think we had a pleasure to meet! Welcome! A warm welcome to you, my friend!
By popular demand I feel the need to clarify: I wasn't replying to Greg (who seems a wiser man than a lot of us, judging by the number of his posts).
Rewarding after a negative marker. In later stages the negative marker precedes the correction. If the negative marker has been established as precursor to a reward the dog learns to ignore the corrections because the reward is coming.
Ignoring corrections could get very dangerous with a Rott. The OP seems to have a very nice drivey pup. He has already received his share of not-so-good/will-bite-you-on-the-ass advice in other threads.
Let's not put him another 6 months behind in his training?
Give them time to think if they need to (or think about not complying, more likely) and simply hold your ground saying nothing until they decide that sitting is what they wanted to do all along.... then throw the party.
You can always work on faster response. But first, they have to clearly understand the meaning of the command word.
Great advice. I took this from one of your other posts a while back and rolled it into my training.
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Quote: greg meyer
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the word "no or nope" be used in the same manner as "try again"?
Yes! Exactly.
There’s a little confusion for me here. A couple of things pointed out would be completely suitable for some reward-based (we used to say "positive") training that I have certainly done in the past .... but not as the "nope" in marker training. JMO!
Watch how there is NO TIME when the dog goes out of drive (by the handler "holding ground and doing nothing&rdquo.
See how drive is not interrupted or suppressed by a long pause/wait on Cindy’s part?
Watch the part where he fails to comply and there is no pause at all: Stand. Nope. Down. Stand. Nope. Down. Stand. Yes!
QUOTE: "No treat for the negative marker and then 'Yes for compliance of the command with a treat for the positive marker."
Right, but not after the negative marker -- it's after the command was correctly complied with. (The video clip is way clearer than I am. lol)
If the video clip and what I've said didn't answer this, please tell me, because I got a little lost in the thread. I hope I am answering what was being asked.
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Even though it wasn't in the O.P., it is important to remember that the negative marker will at some time down the road precede a correction.
You can see that in addition to all that you see in the little video clip, you also do not want to establish a protocol of m/r after the nope. The nope means, exactly as Greg says, "Try again!"
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A couple of things pointed out would be completely suitable for some reward-based (we used to say "positive") training that I have certainly done in the past .... but not as the "nope" in marker training. JMO! 
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