Maybe the PD knows this man & has worked dog with him or something & they or someone in the PD knows his skill level.

According to what the OP posted...I don't see a PD giving a dog to someone that is going to VISIT & PLAY with a k9 & then take him home. Just sounds all a bit fishy to me.

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David....do PDs rehome patrol K9s to the civilian public? I thought, at least here (I know a number of the local K9 officers), most dogs live out their days with their last handler when taken out of 'commission'.

I can see a dog that is still young enough, being reasigned to a new handler, if there is a change with the existing handler. But if they are retiring a dog, which it sounds like they are with this one. Or at least obviously taking it out of commission it seems.

I can't imagine a PD, in all good conscience, rehoming this type(at least as discribed) kind of dog to a civilian home.

Just curious. Maybe different departments do different things? Just doesn't sound like this makes any sense to me at all.

It does happen on occasion. In my experience it's not all that common. In my 23 years with this department, I've never had a handler not keep his dog when retired. Placing a dog that has behavior issues would be such a liability, I'd be surprised if it were to happen. They must have a bullet proof liability release. In my 23 years in the MWD program, dogs were not adopted out. Glad to see that has changed. I doubt however, the military would adopt out a dog that could be dangerous.

DFrost

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I doubt however, the military would adopt out a dog that could be dangerous.

What ever agency it is, they may only ever adopt out this one dog before they take the same policy. This dog sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

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 Quote: David C.Frost

I doubt however, the military would adopt out a dog that could be dangerous.

What ever agency it is, they may only ever adopt out this one dog before they take the same policy. This dog sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

I totally agree and hope there's a mistake somewhere. Thanks for all the input. and no, this is definitely not a dog I am considering. I am definitely not that foolish.

Sounds like the guy is an LEO, looking for a PD? The dog is not a PD?

If it's 105lbs, it's not a 'real' Dutch! Just sayin'.

Other then that, the person considering taking the dogs is going to be in for a RUDE AWAKENING. What a terrible idea.

Here's my take:

If your friend wants to muzzle the dog EVERY TIME he leaves the house and NEVER allow that dog to get within 25m of a stranger, then sure, go for it (assuming he will be able to "bond" with the dog, whatever that means.)

Yes, a little sarcasm there. My point is that your friend, even if he's able to acquire the trusting "bond" so the dog will never attack him, he will never be able to trust this dog around strangers. I am no expert, but I have a little bit of experience with a dog that has behaved in that manner, and no amount of "socialization" or engagement training was able to fix him.

In my limited experience, dogs attacking people unprovoked is not normal behavior... it is LEARNED behavior. And it's often very difficult (if not impossible) to completely extinguish.

I'm with Dennis on this one. Get a puppy. There's no reason why your friend needs to get a dog with all that baggage.

Four red flags go up for me that indicate that this person does not know what they are getting into: 1) "For the first time i was trying to bond a little" "I will have to take possession of this dog within the next week and i am trying to bond"; 2) "I need some advice to get and to maintain dominance of this dog"; 3) "to ensure my brother is safe"; and 4) "I am about to take possession…, I will have to take possession…, bad things are going to happen…, I need to get control of this dog…."

It is naive in the extreme to think that you are 'bonding' with a dog the first or second time you meet. Bonding happens over time, there is no knowing what form that bond will take until enough time and handling as passed to get to know and respect one another. The whole notion of 'dominance' sounds very Dog Whisperer to me, as does the idea of being 'alpha' and somehow that being enough to prevent "bad things" from happening. And if this person is using that language, it tells me they don't know what they are talking about (ie. nothing about management, handling approach, training program, experienced support).

Also, that there is a brother involved who needs to be kept safe. How old is the brother? This sounds unbelievably stupid. And the whole tone of urgency, as if the OP doesn't have a choice in the matter, doesn't know the dog, is taking possession of the dog, agh.

"I hope that I have given you enough information to give me good advice" yes, here is the advice I would give you, DO NOT TAKE POSSESSION OF THIS DOG.

I initial reaction was "Why the hell would anyone WANT that dog?"


I have no intelligent advice to give...but even if I was thinking of purchasing a protection dog because the everyone on the street was attacking me (zombie apocalypse maybe XD?)....this wouldn't be my first choice...if I wanted somthing that went after EVERYONE including it's handler I'd get a gun and not learn how to handle it properly....


I'm curious why this dog was considered in the first place, even as a retiree or rescue....if this was a rescue case I'd think it was MORE humane to put him down quietly BEFORE he's shot after ripping the face off some child....how would you even contain him during walks that would be fair? I know my pup LIKES his muzzle (spent a few weeks playing muzzle games) and prong collar/harness/etc even he'd be miserable muzzled 24 hours a day always on a prong with a backup leash and maybe a harness with a handle.....

I can't imagine a dog like that being a good K9 officer either...I mean, I know they're not supposed to be best friends with most of the people they meet....but they do have to go into areas possibly off leash that there may be civilians in, a dog that attacks like that CAN'T be good for that right?