Al Curbow wrote 09/28/2011 04:33 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: marissa hiller ] #345607 - 09/28/2011 04:33 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Why do you think this dog is a fear biter?
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Tracy Collins wrote 09/28/2011 05:15 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: marissa hiller ] #345618 - 09/28/2011 05:15 PM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Quote: marissa hiller He is attacking with real aggression. He growls like he is possessed then will bite and make you bleed. But growling and play biting are how puppies behave naturally, if they haven't been taught better. Some are just more enthusiastic than others. I cannot help but think this is pent-up play behavior, combined with too much freedom and not enough structure. Bleeding is bad, don't get me wrong. But just because he's biting doesn't make him a "fear biter." Why would he be afraid of you? Is there a reason you can think of that he would fear you? Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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steve strom wrote 09/28/2011 05:31 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: Tracy Collins ] #345620 - 09/28/2011 05:31 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: We have tried to make him submit when he acts like this but he is so aggressive it makes it difficult to put your hand near him to show him who is boss .
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Tracy Collins wrote 09/28/2011 05:35 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: steve strom ] #345621 - 09/28/2011 05:35 PM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Yeah, I know, Steve. But still--this is a 6-month old. And OP says he's "begging for attention." I think this has more to do with the fact that the pup was adopted at 4 weeks (!) and has had no bite-inhibition training with littermates. @OP: whatever it is you're doing to "show him who is boss" isn't working, so stop that. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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steve strom wrote 09/28/2011 05:37 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: marissa hiller ] #345622 - 09/28/2011 05:37 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: marissa hiller He is attacking with real aggression. He growls like he is possessed then will bite and make you bleed. Marissa, I think you accidently taught him this while trying to show him who's boss. Look at all the things Anne or Tracy have said, none of them involve picking a fight with him. When you start trying to physically submit him, your picking a fight that I don't think you won. The things that have been posted for you build respect, I don't think you have that now.
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steve strom wrote 09/28/2011 05:39 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: Tracy Collins ] #345624 - 09/28/2011 05:39 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	Quote: I think this has more to do with the fact that the pup was adopted at 4 weeks (!) and has had no bite-inhibition training with littermates. Yeah, I'm sure this could be a part of the problem and then made worse with some inconsistant and rough handling.
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Sheila Buckley wrote 09/28/2011 05:42 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: marissa hiller ] #345625 - 09/28/2011 05:42 PM
Sheila Buckley Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2007 Posts: 1243 Loc: Offline	Quote: marissa hiller 'My puppy is 6 months old and we got him when he was 4 weeks from a lady with 19 puppies in a trailer. Marissa, Based on this information I highly recommend calling someone who specializes in dog behavior. 4 weeks is much too young to be seperated from the litter and 19 puppies in a trailer leads me to doubt any thought was given to the temperment of the pups being bred. It could be as simple as not having had an opportunity to learn appropriate bite inhibition from its litter to not being completely stable. Both situations can be worked with and over time you can build a valued relationship between the two of you but I think an evaluation is necessary in order to address appropriately what the "issue" is. I agree leash and crate and no more confrontations to submit until you can have him evaluated by a professional. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Tracy Collins wrote 09/28/2011 06:42 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: Sheila Buckley ] #345629 - 09/28/2011 06:42 PM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Sheila's advice is great. But until a pro gets there to help, the simplest solution to start with is a leash. Put this puppy on a leash. Go for a 3 mile walk, and when you get home leave the leash on and tie it to your belt. Repeat twice a day. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Amy VandeWeerd wrote 09/28/2011 08:47 PM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: Tracy Collins ] #345637 - 09/28/2011 08:47 PM
Amy VandeWeerd Webboard User Reg: 03-14-2011 Posts: 723 Loc: South Dakota Offline	I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but also having a toy handy to redirect those little teeth to something more appropriate can also help. Not only can it teach the pup what is appropriate to bite, but it gets them off of you
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Ben McDonald wrote 09/29/2011 02:41 AM Re: fear biter puppy [Re: Amy VandeWeerd ] #345658 - 09/29/2011 02:41 AM
Ben McDonald Webboard User Reg: 05-25-2011 Posts: 439 Loc: Lawton, OK Offline	Marissa, alot of the things said on here are very accurate. Just for my 2 cents, I'd go with everything everyone here has told you. Whoever told you to make your dog submit to you by physically man-handling your dog is outright wrong. I would not be listening to any more advise from them. You can learn how to raise your puppy correctly from alot of posts already made on this forum, and by asking questions. Besides the fact that the "breeder" (I use that term loosely here) allowed you to have a puppy at 4 weeks speaks volumes of how unresponsible, uncaring, and down-right stupid they are. IMO , no breeder in their right mind would let a puppy go from their litter and mom before 8 weeks. Anyway, back on topic, sorry I was starting to rant ... Perhaps you can post a video of your puppy being a terror? It would certainly give alot more information as to what exactly is going on. Cassy & Leo enjoying a nap.
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