They don't need to be petted to be socialized. You don't want you dog learning to run up to everyone for pets or treats anyway.
Tell them your dog is 'in training' & you don't want him petted. Just say please don't touch my dog. Your dog your rules. PERIOD. You don't want him to start getting anoyed or to get snappy as he gets older becasue of people sticking their hands out at him. He doens't need strangers reaching out to him or touch him to be well socialized. He just needs to ignor them & move on.
I wouldn't worry to much about your puppy not wanting strangers petting him. After all, he doesn't know or trust them. A nuetral attitude around strangers is just fine and safe as a stranger can undo alot of training if they accidently spook the pup. You can even get vests or patches to sew on a harness or backpack that say
"in training do not pet" or "working dog do not pet" , I've found them to be useful with my carting dog, as it makes my wishes clear.
Sarah, welcome to the forum. You will find good people with honest advice here.
A few things,
1) He is just a puppy. So quit worrying about his future potential and all that. Let him be the big bouncy mischief monger he is entitled to be
2) I would never correct a puppy for obedience , or for that matter even a dog. Corrections in my world are reserved for pack structure transgressions.
3) Just take him out and feed him and play with him in a lot of different places. Teach him engagement. That is all a puppy of his age needs to know. In my humble opinion.
4) Ofcourse you can teach sit, down , heel all in an informal way with out adding verbal cue to it
This weekend I spent a lot of time socializing Koda (Petsmart, Petco, Ace Hardware, walking up and down stairs, any place I could think of) and he did great!
The one thing I noticed is that he does not like strangers petting him. Strangers can walk/run up to him and he does not flinch. Koda will even walk up to every stranger that I let him. He will sniff and wag his tail, But the second a stranger trys to pet him he will move away to avoid being petted. He does not run or try to hide. When the stranger puts their hand out Koda will go right back to sniff and lick, even after he avoided the petting.
He is doing a little better with other dogs. He will want to sniff but thats about it. But when the other dog gets excited, Koda wants nothing more to do with the situation.
Is this normal, or do I have a lot more work to do?
He's a little unsure about them. If you want him to be indifferent to strangers, I would keep him at a little distance and not let him approach them. When he does that, he's thinking for himself and he may end up making his own decisions about how to deal with them.
Over the last week or so I have not given Koda any corrections. Koda seems like a different dog, more playful and carefree. He still heels, sits and stays on command. He really enjoys the praise so much that he does not need correcting.
I try not to worry about his future potential. Koda has become like a second child to me. It is really hard not to worry about him succeding in life.
Koda basically completed the first round of training. When we move on to Advanced Obedience and eventually Personal Protects, we will move on to another trainer. The trainer we are thinking about is http://www.nexushausk9services.com/index.html.
Could anyone take the time to look at his website?
Also today I took him to Wal-Mart and walked up and down the sidewalk for about 30 min. I did not let any one pet him, he did not get nervous or jumpy. He would walk right by everyone and do nothing more than look at them and wag his tail.
On a couple occasions we walked by some pretty big crowds were he had to brush by people to pass. This also did not phase him one bit.
However....He did go wild chasing a frog down the sidewalk, which I let him do until the frog found a hiding spot. :>
I don't know anything about him, but when I googled his name I see he's trialed at a couple of Sch. Clubs in that area. Maybe you could check those out. Could end up being something you enjoy.
Together these DVDs will cover pretty much all your theoretical training needs for the nearest future. All you have to do is go out and train your puppy
You will also learn enough to recognize good and bad training when you see it.
eta: and of course go visit Schutzhund and/or Ring clubs in your area!
Edited by Ana Kozlowsky (10/10/2011 04:55 PM)
Edit reason: eta
This is great advice on dealing with people. We just celebrated 2nd birthday with our rottie, and I let everyone pet him when he was little and in no little time he expected everyone to be a party. We are just now getting him over that. When we saw our breeder a few months ago at an event, she told me exactly what these people are saying. I had already done it, and was now working on undoing it.
We also did too much obedience with corrections too soon, and we ended up taking a whole winter off after finding this site and studying some of Ed and Michael Ellis's dvd's, Because... he ended up disliking riding in the truck our guess because it took him to the classes where we did obedience? He was not excited about doing anything like that. We stopped everything except having fun and bonding and doing engagement, and now he likes riding in the truck again, and everything is going much better.
Best of luck with your new addition to your family.
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