 Re: recurring skin staph
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#369061 - 11/09/2012 05:45 PM |
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I reapply to the spot at least twice a day. If its really big or bad, shave the area, or clip hair shorter, so air gets at it.
I monitor the itchy spots, when I see a certain area is being gone back to by the dog, I inspect under the fur, 9 out of 10 times there is a red spot/ pustule beginning. I use the spray immediately, twice a day ,that usually knocks it out.
I am looking or ward to hearing what you think of it Connie. Please report back and let me know what you think.
Joyce Salazar
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Re: recurring skin staph
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#369062 - 11/09/2012 05:49 PM |
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The vetericyn appears to be saline+bleach. In case you didn't want to wait. I think you could make a salt solution that tastes like sea water and add a bit of bleach, just enough so you can barely smell it.
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Re: recurring skin staph
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#369063 - 11/09/2012 06:15 PM |
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The vetericyn appears to be saline+bleach. In case you didn't want to wait. I think you could make a salt solution that tastes like sea water and add a bit of bleach, just enough so you can barely smell it.
Aha!
I found chemical-forum discussion of the ingredients, but none in regular English like this. 
I have no bleach on hand, so maybe I'll press a Duoxo pad onto the main site for a minute.
I bathed him with extended foam-contact yesterday, and I pick up the Baytril tomorrow. Then Tuesday when it comes, I'll start the new stuff (with the Baytril, of course ... not instead of).
"I monitor the itchy spots, when I see a certain area is being gone back to by the dog, I inspect under the fur, 9 out of 10 times there is a red spot/ pustule beginning. I use the spray immediately, twice a day ,that usually knocks it out."
The problem is that he doesn't scratch or lick or in any way react to the staph, so the way I find it is when he's having his passive OA exercises/massage and my fingers feel the lesion(s). He doesn't seem to care about it at all, which made discovering it completely accidental (even though (I do give the dogs regular once-overs).
Obviously, I need to really step up my game here, examining the usual site every day or two and immediately starting the new stuff when I find it starting.
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Re: recurring skin staph
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#369065 - 11/09/2012 06:23 PM |
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Definitely a lot harder to stay on top of it when the dog is unbothered by its occurrence. I guess a daily once-over is needed to make sure you see it.
Looking forward to your updates!!
Joyce Salazar
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#369071 - 11/09/2012 07:01 PM |
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Definitely a lot harder to stay on top of it when the dog is unbothered by its occurrence. I guess a daily once-over is needed to make sure you see it.
Looking forward to your updates!!
I will update!
Thank you both. I'll be thrilled if I can lower the number of annual infection events.
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Re: recurring skin staph
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#369072 - 11/09/2012 07:24 PM |
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PS
The vet just returned my call. Long story short, she said she wasn't familiar with it until a week ago when the other vet there started using it on a tail amputation stump that wasn't healing quickly --- basically for all the reasons you stated: effective but non-irritating and non-toxic and less damaging to the cells at the breach site than products with alcohol or iodine or antibiotics.
So she gave it her blessing (fortunately, since I had already ordered it). I will ask them to carry it if it works well on Oliver. (She said as far as she knew, they had only the one bottle, which she thought the other vet had bought specially, but would of course be happy to get it in stock.)
So I'll be reporting to her too. 
Isn't it nice to have this platform for recommendations and experimenation/reporting?
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Re: recurring skin staph
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#369077 - 11/09/2012 10:09 PM |
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We used to use "bleach water" on farm animal wounds all the time, everybody did. It was a cheap antiseptic. Soaked horses feet in mild bleach solution for thrush. Disinfected large open wounds with a saline with a little bleach.
This product is I'm sure great. I wish I'd patented it. I bet there are tons of old large animal vets who think the same thing. Saline and a little bit of bleach, with a balanced pH. I'm sure it's terrific.
The staph though maybe like "zits", in the dog vs. on the dog. Like acne, no matter what you put on it, some folks (when we were kids) got zits. I think the staph you are
seeing is likely a little like that.
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Re: recurring skin staph
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#369080 - 11/09/2012 11:05 PM |
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"This product is I'm sure great. I wish I'd patented it. I bet there are tons of old large animal vets who think the same thing."
Interesting! I wonder if there even IS a patent, or just "hurry up and sell this old-time remedy in the shiny new bottle before anyone notices." :-)
I understand what you're saying about the acne resemblance. Some people get zits, period. That sounded like what the vet was saying: Some dogs get this, period.
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I'll make sure he also has "nekkid skin" time and try not to unnaturally keep his skin "treated."
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#369116 - 11/10/2012 02:08 PM |
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I would just like to say that taking care of skin issues is a pain in the butt!!! Just needed to get that out of my system!
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Re: recurring skin staph
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#369122 - 11/10/2012 05:38 PM |
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I would just like to say that taking care of skin issues is a pain in the butt!!! Just needed to get that out of my system!
Yes. We have a lot of threads here about derm issues, and IMHO that's a good thing, because they can be SO frustrating and because it's so common that owners spend a fortune and a ton of time trying to deal with them without the info they need for a chronic derm issue before they finally turn to a derm vet or a holistic vet with derm experience.
JMO!
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