Re: Lumps and bumps
[Re: Chip Bridges ]
#369207 - 11/12/2012 06:31 PM |
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Good advice, all three of you! Thank you sincerely. I was already getting angry in my head about what I expected to hear, and that isn't fair to her. I do suspect she'll correlate the lump with not spaying, but it's interesting to see that there are so many diseases that either increase or decrease with the procedure. My gut had always told me the big reason for pushing spay/neuter was avoiding unwanted puppies; and the health benefits were exaggerated at best. Interesting to see hard data, as well as risks I have never once heard from my vet. I'll keep you guys updated.
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Re: Lumps and bumps
[Re: Chip Bridges ]
#369220 - 11/12/2012 09:40 PM |
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Hoping there's nothing serious going on, Chip. It can be worrisome to watch our big dogs age...
Oscar (going on 8 in March) has a few lumps appearing... one of which is reasonably hard and right in the middle of his back. That one concerns me a bit and we have an appointment to have it checked, again, in a few weeks (we attempted to get a sample at an earlier visit this summer, but apparently they didn't get enough cells to thoroughly analyze...).
For anyone who subscribes to the Whole Dog Journal, the October issue had a nice article all about "lumps". Apparently turmeric is quite good at decreasing the size of lipomas - not "new" news necessarily, but I hadn't heard it before...
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369221 - 11/12/2012 09:49 PM |
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Spaying or not spaying your dog has 0 to do with a bump in the skin. 0. Unless the bump is a mammary tumor-- this would be somewhere along the abdomen, around any of the breast tissue from the chest to the groin. These tumors feel like BBs under the skin, they are often moveable early but soon become fixed. If the bump you are worried about is on her chest or belly and could possibly be a mammary tumor early treatment is absolutely key.
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369239 - 11/13/2012 10:41 AM |
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Hoping there's nothing serious going on, Chip. It can be worrisome to watch our big dogs age...
Oscar (going on 8 in March) has a few lumps appearing... one of which is reasonably hard and right in the middle of his back. That one concerns me a bit and we have an appointment to have it checked, again, in a few weeks (we attempted to get a sample at an earlier visit this summer, but apparently they didn't get enough cells to thoroughly analyze...).
For anyone who subscribes to the Whole Dog Journal, the October issue had a nice article all about "lumps". Apparently turmeric is quite good at decreasing the size of lipomas - not "new" news necessarily, but I hadn't heard it before...
I don't know how I missed this article in WDJ. But I read it this morning. IMO, it would be worth it to the O.P. to subscribe to get this article, which is clear and in-depth.
(Disclaimer: I think this about many health articles in WDJ. )
This is the opening few lines:
http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/15_10/features/Canine-Lipomas-Best-Treatment-Options_20626-1.html
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369257 - 11/14/2012 10:22 AM |
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I'm a subscriber, but I'd somehow missed that WDJ article! Thanks!
FWIW, the lipomas are all along the belly, though none appear to be right under a nipple.
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369259 - 11/14/2012 11:46 AM |
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The breast tissue goes out 2+ inches from the nipple. THink of a dog with puppies. All that "boob" area is the tissue impacted by estrogen.
If your vet says these are lipomas, they probably are. But you might consider having someone look at the "hard" one. Especially if it's new.
Dogs that "grow things" are in my view likely to grow something bad eventually.
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369262 - 11/14/2012 12:19 PM |
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.... Dogs that "grow things" are in my view likely to grow something bad eventually.
This is my vet's POV as well. Hence the trip in with every new bump and tag my bumpy dog develops.
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369301 - 11/15/2012 11:08 AM |
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.... Dogs that "grow things" are in my view likely to grow something bad eventually.
This is my vet's POV as well. Hence the trip in with every new bump and tag my bumpy dog develops.
Don't pretty much all dogs end up growing things (benign or not) as they age? I don't think I know any seniors that don't have little bumps of one sort or another...
*And we will absolutely be checking all bumps at our appointment in a few weeks!
**And (another shameless plug) WDJ ROCKS!!
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Re: Lumps and bumps
[Re: Chip Bridges ]
#369303 - 11/15/2012 12:00 PM |
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Oh yes, absolutely. But my dog has always grown things, starting at about age three.
I was thinking of dogs who have grown things all their lives.
You are right: I don't recall having many seniors who didn't eventually grow a bump or two (or more).
I should have been clearer. "Dogs who have grown things for years have a more likely chance of growing something bad eventually" is more what I meant about my guy. He is a pile o' small tags and bumps and "beauty marks." I examine him regularly and the vet sees every new item in the collection. :-)
And then, seniors who start growing a lot of things probably also fall into the category of being more likely to grow a bad one.
Maybe this is misleading, though. I know a MCT can come out of nowhere.
Maybe "check them all" is the takeaway message, regardless.
With the sub-message: "Don't think that just because your dog grows a lot of benign bumps like lipomas, the next bump can't be bad."
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Re: Lumps and bumps
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#369304 - 11/15/2012 11:52 AM |
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"Don't pretty much all dogs end up growing things (benign or not) as they age? "
Yes, if you read Merck's tumor overview, it supports this completely. Many of the types are far more common in seniors.
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