gary chesney Webboard User Reg: 12-27-2012
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I understand that my terminal bridge is a release. He is released to get his reward. In the instance you gave as an example using good as an intermediate bridge, does that also release him? Or do I need to also add a separate release when using an intermediate bridge ?
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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I understand that my terminal bridge is a release. He is released to get his reward. In the instance you gave as an example using good as an intermediate bridge, does that also release him? Or do I need to also add a separate release when using an intermediate bridge ?
No, an intermediate bridge doesn't release him. It's a "bridge" ...... to keep the dog going toward his marker/release/TB/reward.
The intermediate bridge is not a release. If your marker (TB) was, say, yes (or it could of course be a clicker), and you were using your IB (maybe good) to stretch out the reps between TBs, only the TB/marker/yes releases him.
An IB is to keep the dog going, to encourage him, until the TB/marker. Then the TB/marker is still the end, the release.
So I was saying you might use your IB (if you have one) to encourage the dog during the rep where you didn't m/r. OR you might just use any praise, anything to say "you're doing great" until you actually give your TB/marker and reward him.
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I will, don't worry! This post didn't bring up any particular questions I had, but I always love to observe how others explain things to people at different levels of understanding.
I teach biology at the college level AND the elementary school level, so being a big nerd, I love seeing the pedagogical techniques of other educators.
John, one way I explain it is to compare it to a slot machine.
You may pull that handle 20 times before you get a reward because you KNOW from past wins the reward will come. You may stick 20 dollars in the machine but a return of 5 dollars will have you pulling the arm again.
Pull to many times with out being rewarded and you stop trying.
Once the dog KNOWS a reward is possible it will keep trying/performing. As long as it is rewarded randomly it will keep trying. That's assuming the dog truly understands the exercise.
Make sense?
To do with Gary's question.
Instead of rewarding every rep reward every 2nd rep ,then every 3rd rep, then 4th rep, then start to mix it up is this not a simple way to explain it.
Correct me if I am off track.
gary chesney Webboard User Reg: 12-27-2012
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Bob, I have read other places where continuous reinforcement is compared to a coke machine. If you always put your money in and get a coke everything is great but when you put your money in and don't get a coke you feel cheated and are much less likely to put your money in again. And the variable reinforcement compared to a slot machine like you did. That made me question how to get him to understand his coke machine became a slot machine without him getting seriously discouraged when I skip a reward for what he viewed as paying for the reward, skip the delivery of a coke even though he paid.
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