I've got to put in my vote for a poodle. I had a large toy many years ago. She was totally the BOM! She did it all. Smart as all get out with crazy drive, an off switch & solid nerves. She went almost everywhere with me. Loved to go to the beach,swim,play in the snow.
She had great OB. Could learn a new behavior in a heartbeat. I had always been a big dog person ...but she was a big dog in a little body. I will for sure own another one someday.
My remarks about rescues were probably from frustration with Tanner. I thought we had enough training done at home to go out to PetSmart. Nope! Not even close. I'm not embarrassed by a young dog still learning manners. A 7 year old 70 lb dog trying to jump on people did embarrass me. The trainer even commented that he "would benefit from a training class".
The previous owners encouraged him to jump and now I'm having a hard time convincing him not to. He likes treats but not enough to redirect him from people. He loves people way more than food. Time to start the nightly trips to stores that I've done with other dogs. I think I'm also going to teach the vibrate on the e-collar as a "look at me" cue.
I've been checking out Maricopa County Animal Control's site. Lots of terrier and terrier mix pups. A few poodles.
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I would still go for a terrier mix from a shelter.
It doesn't have to mean the dog will have alot of issues...ive seen some dogs bounding out of those places, not a care in the world all happy and go lucky with no issues whatsoever that training will solve. And you'ld have to do that training with a puppy either way.
My dog was a beast when i got him....aggressive, not house trained, didn't know sit from down. I had my ups and downs with him when I first got him. But I would definately resuce again.
I don't know how you feel about the bully breeds, but I know two different people who have Staffordshire Bull Terriers and have been very successful in competing in the venues you mentioned. One is a rescue. They would defintely fit your weight and coat requirements.
My Kipp is compact at 30#/18". He is high drive when it comes to doing something, will sit attentively for clicker training all.day.long (FOOD!!!) but he's incredibly mellow in the house/car when I'm not working with him.
I don't know any personally, but there are currently breeders mixing Staffordshire Bull Terriers with Border Collies as flyball and agility dogs.
I have met a few and really liked them. Bigger than a JRT but smaller than a BC, really nice little pocket rockets, and smart to boot.
Two I met had a great genetic off switch and could chill when needed the last one was more like my female shepherd, and could go forever. So even if you took a lower drive pup, it would most likely still have more than enough drive for what you listed.
I have a friend that has a terrier/border collie mix & does agility with him. Also know another one that a gal & know that does agility with her aussies that she breeds has one that is doing very well for her.
Ok I think you should check out Rat terriers. They are terriers but not excessively so, not quite as extreme as Jack Russells but still highly trainable, sharp little dogs with a lot of guts and extremely agile. I have been really impressed with them.
I just put my darling Blue, an Italian greyhound, to sleep. She was 15. We did obedience, canine good citizen---- could have done a lot more if I had known about marker training when she was young. Strong prey and food drives-- as long as it wasn't too cold, there wasn't much she wouldn't try.
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Ok I think you should check out Rat terriers. They are terriers but not excessively so, not quite as extreme as Jack Russells but still highly trainable, sharp little dogs with a lot of guts and extremely agile. I have been really impressed with them.
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