I'm curious about this like Duane is. The report circulated through our club about 2 weeks ago but I didn't know really what it was all about being new to the sport.

Well, just left the USCA website. USCA's stance was that negotiations broke down when WDA reported some false information to WUSV, and that WDA wants USCA's services for free. However, all has been resolved; USCA is in compliance with the WUSV constitution, there is a mandate to all USCA clubs to accept and recognize all WDA scorebooks and titles, etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah... Can we all just get along?

FWIW, from the outlook of someone new to all of this, the WDA DOES have much more to gain from this partnership than the USCA does.

The ruling from the SV and the WUSV does not include or entail any kind of partnership. It just states that the USCA must follow the WUSV rules concernig scorebooks and judges it has already agreed to many time previously. The USCA has bullied members of both the USCA and the GSDCA/WDA by using scorebooks and club affiliation as a political tool. Read the current bylaws of the USCA and the AWDF that are crafted to eleminate anyone not in the USCA from participating and/or adding surcharges. The USCA bullying extended to the AWDF where they could be the only German Shepherd club. Each and every local USCA club can open trial enrollment to membership first and if there are open slots after membership has all they want there is only an advantage for the USCA club hosting the trial. It costs the same to host a half full trial as a full trial. The GSDCA/WDA has always accepted any scorebook with SV approved judges scores and has allowed all with a valid scorebook under WUSV rules to participate.

Ha. I remember how you drove Bowie crazy.

I only said partnership for lack of a better word.

I'm beginning to appreciate my ignorance of these matters. I just want to play with my dog.

 Quote: Duane Hull

I just want to play with my dog.

Yep. I think we all do.


I just have to ditto Betty:

 Quote: Betty Waldron

It occurs to me that our dogs would be so much better off if all of the organizations left politics at the door.....

“I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig, you get dirty; and besides, the pig likes it." (George Bernard Shaw)

The letter from the SV and WUSV was the pig's notice (USCA) that they were tired of wrestling with them. The rules were there before during and now hopefully after this mess was created by the USCA.

Your language "there is a mandate to all USCA clubs to accept and recognize all WDA scorebooks and titles, etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah... Can we all just get along?" was an indication that this would blow over and all would go on as before.

I think the WUSV made it clear that this time "lip service" and no real change in how the USCA does business will not be tolerated. A rewrite of the bylaws of the USCA and AWDF must also happen and changes in forms and letters with exclusionary wording must also occur. I think the term you prefer is blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc..

I have several working line dogs and I intend to play with them and play with anyone who wants to play. The USCA never has had the right to meddle in my business or the business of GSD owners and trainers. IPO and schutzhund were never intended to be an end in themslves .. just a test for breeding better dogs. All great dogs are not champions and not all champions are great dogs.

Mr. Finley;

I used the term etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah, because all I'm hearing is lip service from all sides. I'm new to dogsport, and most of this rhetoric is meaningless to me.
I originally joined in on this thread because I was hoping to learn something about the politics behind the conflicting viewpoints in this thread. I was hoping there would eventually be some intelligent conversation about this issue, but, what with the polarization of this issue, an objective explanation is too much to ask.

As a GSD owner, I have no choice about which organization I can join. The GSDCA/WDA does not offer a club to me within 400 miles of my home. If I owned a Pitbull or Rottweiler or Doberman or Malinois, I would have a choice of which parent organization I am a member of, but I would still have to be a member of one of two schutzhund clubs in my area, both of which are fostered/sponsored/whatevered by the USCA. The USCA would stamp my approved breed foundation scorebook, and I would be welcomed to participate in our local trials, just as all of the non-GSD members of our club do.

FWIW,I am just a hobbyist trying to learn a little more. I could care less which banner hangs over the podium at our local trials. I have yet to meet an entrant that wasn't welcome there.

So now its resolved to your liking Charles, so you'll be trialing in USCA trials?

For the present I will pass .. Let's see if the USCA actually does what they say or if the innocent are punished and the guilty are rewarded as is the norm?? The actions of the USCA in the past have never lived up to their words so I am not expecting that to change. I would need to see a change in the voting system of the USCA to one man one vote before I believe any real change for the better is happening in that organization. The only thing that has been resolved is that the USCA has agreed yet once more to follow the rules they agreed to follow previously but broke over and over again. How could the world be so cruel as to expect them to follow the rules??