I learned the importance of my dog cueing off of my hand gestures the past couple weeks. I had taught him focused heeling with my left hand up on my chest with food in the hand. He was doing really well. I was getting a lot of positive comments about how good his heeling was. Then I just decided to try movieng my hand down like I was seeing some of the more experienced people at our club do. He stay in the right position but zero focus. Even if I put my hand up there but no food in it I would get no focus. It took about a week to get him to understand that the command meant to look at me in addition to being in the correct position.
Bongo!
I never want the dog looking at the reward be it a treat or a toy. That's part of the proofing in marker training.
With the dog sitting in heel position they know that reward will only come if they are looking at my face. That also meas my face looking forward, not back at the dog.
That's one of may reasons a dog will wrap around you in heeling. You've spent a ton of time marking eye contact. Now all of a sudden in competition your walking with your face straight ahead. The dog has learned that eye contact is rewardable so what does it do?! It tries to come around front to make eye contact.
Par of the proofing is holding the reward out to the side, in front of it's face, In the other hand, on a table at the other side of a room, etc.
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Bongo!
I never want the dog looking at the reward be it a treat or a toy. That's part of the proofing in marker training.
With the dog sitting in heel position they know that reward will only come if they are looking at my face. That also meas my face looking forward, not back at the dog.
That's one of may reasons a dog will wrap around you in heeling. You've spent a ton of time marking eye contact. Now all of a sudden in competition your walking with your face straight ahead. The dog has learned that eye contact is rewardable so what does it do?! It tries to come around front to make eye contact.
Par of the proofing is holding the reward out to the side, in front of it's face, In the other hand, on a table at the other side of a room, etc.
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Hi, Carol,
I think it was smart to use completely different commands for left and right.
Here are a couple of things I would look at:
I'd make sure (in front of a mirror) that I wasn't using some kind of body language that to the dog means both finishes, or either finish.
I'd make the new command solid, with a few more sessions.
Only then would I ask for both in the same session.
OTOH, maybe he is simply not solid with the new one and is offering his repertoire out of confusion? Same "fix" for me .... more sessions starring the new command, then sessions with the new command and others, then sessions with the new one, other old ones, and the other finish.
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Going well! We had a bit of a setback when Leo realized that if he avoided looking at me, he could have one more sniff at whatever he was busy with before acknowledging that I had signaled him.
We put that bad idea behind us.
A little bit of a fluid dog population, but two senior Pugs and a GSD call it home.
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