 Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378498 - 05/26/2013 04:26 PM |
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The quarantining of the dog is also an essential cooling off period. The community as a whole is done a great service by apprehending (or removing from the owners) a dog that is attacking people. By using the blanket excuse of checking for rabies, animal and law enforcement have the power to seize the dog and determine if it is indeed a threat beyond the most recent incident.
Yes, but -
I know two different people that had their dogs quarantined due to stupid stuff. In one case the neighbor kid stuck their hand through the fence, thought they got bit (no mark on the hand) dog was quarantined for 10 days. The other was a dog over-excited about a toy. Neither dog was dangerous. Neither case was an attack. In both cases the dog was quarantined at the owners expense.
Due to both of those, I've decided that it one of my dogs accidentally bit me so that I needed stitches or something (within the realm of possibility with high drive dogs and toys), I'd never reveal that it was one of my dogs. I would just say that I knew the dog and the dog was up to date on vaccinations. Because doctors are required to report then Animal Control usually requires quarantine.
Of course if it was a stray or dog of unknown history, I'd absolutely report it.
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378500 - 05/26/2013 05:54 PM |
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I am much more concerned about the fact that such a dog was and possibly still is working in close proximity to thousands of people. And that NO ONE has followed up with this lady about a serious situation. That is wrong on so many levels.
This pretty much sums up my feelings after reading the link provided. Frankly, if I were the victim in this particular case, I would be much more concerned about a nasty infection from those deep puncture wounds than I would be about rabies.
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378509 - 05/27/2013 05:43 AM |
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Whether Rabid or not , does it not make sense to get a Anti Rabies Vaccine Protocol started.
Wash with soap - administer human immunoglobin on wound site - and ARV - 0 - 3 - 7 & 14 th day ?
I always thought that if one gets bit by a dog , then one needs to go through the protocol instead of waiting and seeing if the Dog is Rabid or not.
Are there any negative effects of going through the ARV protocol which causes people to wait and see?
I think India has the most Rabies cases in the world next to Thailand. There is a special rabies institute in my state that recommends immediate ARV protocol, whether the animal is rabid or not.
Even if the possibility of a dog being rabid is miniscule, I would be deeply concerned about rabies. I have seen people dying from rabies, and I do not want to die like that. It is a horrific disease and highly stigmatized. Especially since I live in a country that does not allow mercy killing for humans.
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#378538 - 05/27/2013 08:57 PM |
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Are there any negative effects of going through the ARV protocol which causes people to wait and see?
Quite a few actually.
From http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccines/rabies:
"Mild reactions such as pain, redness, swelling, or itching at injection site are reported among 30%-74% of those vaccinated. Headache, nausea, abdominal pain, muscle aches, and dizziness are reported in 5-40% of those vaccinated.
Serious events after vaccination are rare. However, allergic reactions including swelling and mild difficulty breathing developed in 6% of patients who received booster doses of Human Diploid Cell Rabies Vaccine. In addition, three cases of neurologic illness resembling Guillain-Barré Syndrome, a progressive disorder affecting the nervous system, have been reported in people who received the Human Diploid Cell Rabies Vaccine. In these cases, all patients recovered within three months."
The risk of that dog being rabid is MUCH less than 6%. I'd say the chances are minuscule really.
In India immediate vaccination would make sense. In America, especially with a dog that was part of an organized program that would include routine vaccination, starting a Rabies protocol makes no sense at all.
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378539 - 05/27/2013 09:00 PM |
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I would just say that I knew the dog and the dog was up to date on vaccinations.
That won't work.
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#378547 - 05/28/2013 09:09 AM |
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I would just say that I knew the dog and the dog was up to date on vaccinations.
That won't work.
It actually has worked for a couple people I know. Sure the doctors weren't happy about it and they were strongly pressured to give info (police came to the ER because dog bites need to be reported), but when push came to shove the doctors didn't refuse to treat and they didn't reveal the identity of their dog. Maybe laws are different in some places, but here you cannot legally be pressured into doing anything because a dog bit you.
FWIW, I'm not talking life threatening bite here, I'm talking over-enthusiastic dog or one that was highly fearful because something way out of the ordinary happened bit a hand or something.
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378549 - 05/28/2013 11:05 AM |
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So if your own dog bites you and you can provide immunization records, the dog still has to be quarantined?
How is it that a professional trainer or a LEO/military canine handler gets treated in an emergency room and there's no quarantining of the dog?
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378588 - 05/29/2013 01:26 PM |
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So if your own dog bites you and you can provide immunization records, the dog still has to be quarantined?
How is it that a professional trainer or a LEO/military canine handler gets treated in an emergency room and there's no quarantining of the dog?
Maybe the bitten person has a say? I'm just making a guess ... I really have no idea.
And this kind of lays waste to the idea:
"So if your own dog bites you and you can provide immunization records, the dog still has to be quarantined?"
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378590 - 05/29/2013 01:36 PM |
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The bitten person has no say as it's treated as a public health hazard. Yes they will quarantine your own dog even with complete immunization records. Quarantine laws need to change. In some areas you can do an at-home quarantine but others will require your dog to go to the local AC for a 10 day stay. That's very traumatic for the dog and there's way too many cases of accidental euthanasia at AC.
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Re: TSA giving working canines a bad rep?
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#378591 - 05/29/2013 01:55 PM |
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How is it that a professional trainer or a LEO/military canine handler gets treated in an emergency room and there's no quarantining of the dog?
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