Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382483 - 09/01/2013 08:28 PM |
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Betty. I'm not into confirmation but I wouldn't say his head is anywhere near a bulldog
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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Dogs with overlong soft pallet who snore and have breathing troubles occasionally gag and vomit for no reason other than airway obstruction. Especially with excitement/panting. Or after drinking a ton of water.
Dogs who eat foreign bodies vomit due to partial bowl obstruction, and the obstruction clears on its own in a little while, or after the next meal.
Some dogs vomit because they are dogs, basically a scavenger, and vomiting easily without a lot of fuss is a good evolutionary strategy.
I also think it's possible that rare
really smart dogs have learned that puking indoors leads to an immediate trip OUTDOORS with the owner and that it can become a manipulative thing. I never said that to an owner in practice but I think it might be true.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382520 - 09/02/2013 12:29 PM |
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He does snore sometimes. I'm not sure I'd say it's alot of the time but it is quite loud when he does.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382565 - 09/03/2013 05:03 PM |
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How's he doing, Kory? Any more events?
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382571 - 09/03/2013 05:55 PM |
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He's doing well. Acts like nothing ever happened. I was not able to take him to the vet today because we woke up to our septic system backing up into the tubs. Really fun day. After thinking about it for the last few days I have a hunch what's going on, so I'm going to adjust how much I feed him and give it a little time before I go paying for a bunch of tests. I have a feeling that since he is so much bigger than the rotties I've always had that these vomiting episodes are happening when he hits growth spurts and he's not getting enough to eat so that bile you talked about is backing up in his system and causing the vomiting. Plus at his last vet appointment she said he seemed a tiny bit thin to her. So I'm going to feed more and see what happens. I'm used my dogs eating 4-5 cups a day but maybe he just needs a little more.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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This is Marco, my 18 month old male rottie. I asked here several months ago about him occasionally vomiting this milky looking substance. It was very random. I was told, I believe by Connie that some dogs will do this if they go too long without eating, so I started feeding twice a day instead of once. That didn't seem to change it. Someone at our club suggested that dogs will do that if they've eaten something they're not supposed to. He is never unsupervised but he constantly wants to eat things off the ground so I started being very adamant about the leave it command which took a while but it finally stopped him from doing that but he still would have this vomiting issue from time to time. There seemed to be no pattern to it. I had been giving him elk antlers so I tried stopping that and I thought that might be the problem because he hadn't vomited for a few months until a couple weeks ago he did it again. Then he did it about a week ago and now he just did it again a few minutes ago and this time he seemed to almost pass out. His body sort of locked up, he fell over on his side, then immediately got back up and acted like he was perfectly normal.
Some dogs present episodic/temporary symptoms similar to what you've described here from idiopathic unilateral or bilateral Laryngeal Paralysis periodically when they eat, drink, get excited, over-exert themselves, or become over-heated & dehydrated -- Some will cough, gag, vomit, choke, collapse or faint ... I would certainly ask your Vet about these recurring symptoms, Kory.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382578 - 09/03/2013 07:17 PM |
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Candi, I've already heard about this. The problem is that every single time it's happened he has been in the crate, in our air conditioned house being very calm. Then he just stands up and starts the vomiting. So to me that just doesn't make sense unless it takes significant time for it to happen after he gets excited because sometimes the kids being kids running around or whatever will get him excited. But it's not like he gets super excited for any length of time and gets over heated by any means. It's a few seconds of barking and maybe pawing at the crate for a second.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382579 - 09/03/2013 07:26 PM |
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Kory, when you increase food, I would do it gradually and I would do it by adding snack rather than by increasing the size of a present meal.
I say this because these are are the best ways to avoid diarrhea from increased meal size (which is very common, and which is way easier to avoid than fix). Also, if he is having reflux, small frequent meals are far better than larger 2x/day meals.
("Cups" doesn't mean much to me without knowing the food and the dog's weight. Also, of course you know that dogs vary a lot in metabolism as well as calorie-use to cover growth spurts.)
I'm also curious about hypoglycemia, especially if he is eating a grain-based food (and even better kibbles are often grain based). This too is aided by meal frequency (or adding snacks between meals).
All JMO!
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382582 - 09/03/2013 09:00 PM |
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Thanks for that info. Connie. I would've just added more each feeding. He is on Canidae but will likely be switching to Nutri Source shortly. He is on the one that does have grain in it. Considering going to non-grain when I switch to Nutri Source. He is right at 90lbs. And I've been feeding 2-2 1/2 cups morning and night. 12 hours apart.
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Re: Vomiting again and almost fainted
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#382583 - 09/03/2013 09:10 PM |
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Grain in kibble isn't always the worst thing. Grain-free kibble has to use something else ... some starchy ingredient ... to enable the kibbling process.
IMO, tapioca and white potato are pretty much crap for dogs and no better than most grain fractions. Don't let "grain free" disguise that.
For many reasons (possible bile vomiting, possible reflux, possible hypoglycemia), might as well make a major adjustment that costs nothing: more frequent meals.
JMO!
(By "grain-based," I meant that more protein comes from grain than from meat .... not just that the food contains grain.)
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