Kristin Muntz Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2012
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So we want to keep the object of frustration a toy like a ball here, NOT a bite toy?
I am hearing what you're saying, Steve. Everything I would want to do here I want to keep on the 'play' level for him as we all know I don't have enough experience of any kind to know how to deal with any other drive he'll have. We'll be sticking with the 'dog with no defensive drive' side of things.
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He has a good speak command, usually precursed by an air bite and a play bow. Getting him to give more than one bark on command has been a challenge, not even approaching sustained barking.
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Kristin, this is jmo. Maybe jmho. Could even be jmvho, but DON"T MAKE YOUR DOG A SUSPICIOUS WRECK MESSING AROUND WITH THIS STUFF. If you have access to a VERY good trainer, that's one thing. Don't try anything from some book. That book can't see your dog and none of this kind of stuff should be attempted without the ability to see how every part of it works with HIM.
Teach him to either bark for a toy or anticipate having someone throw it so he'll focus on a different person in front of you. Don't do something you'll regret down the road.
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He has a good speak command, usually precursed by an air bite and a play bow. Getting him to give more than one bark on command has been a challenge, not even approaching sustained barking.
lol and here i go trying to stop by dog from barking and lunging. he will bark for 5 minutes if i let him.
truly, we are never happy with what we have.
i do understand why you want the bark, i just thought it was ironic, that's all)))))
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Dogs bark at stuff for many reasons. I can "hear" when my dog switches from prey/alert to defense.
This is a really complicated subject. If you really want to look into it, have your dog evaluated and work with a professional. Otherwise, be happy with what you have and train your dog not to interact with strangers and for solid OB. That is all most of us need.
It's not a good idea to give advice on a dog I haven't worked or that may/may not come from solid working lines with the capacity for protection work.
Training a dog to bark in prey is fine- you can make it a game. But you must know your dog. The switch from prey to defense can be fast - and you probably won't be able to see it as a novice and may start working the dog in defense through lack of experience. You don't want to create a suspicious fear-biter out of a social dog that doesn't have the capacity for protection work.
Kristin, I think you just need some more focus really. Teach him to focus on you wherever you go and then you'll be able to ask for the behavior you want wherever. A well trained large dog is also a deterrent. Use markers instead of frustration to shape a prolonged barking.
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Also- in reply to Natalie- a dog that is barking extensively with no "off" is not what anyone wants. Without control... you have nothing but a potential liability.
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Also- in reply to Natalie- a dog that is barking extensively with no "off" is not what anyone wants. Without control... you have nothing but a potential liability.
people that know anything don't want that. but there are many people out there that told me my dog barks like this because he's protecting me, and that they were bred to do this, and they wish their dogs barked like that and so on.
but my doggie does stop when told. if i don't stop him he's gone on for almost a minute
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