Quote: Connie Sutherland

Are the other family members also the dogs' caretaker(s) and/or trainers? How much are the dogs with them?

They take care of them when i go out, they only pet and spiol them, more when im out.... and my mom do spend time with the girls alone....

My mom sees both dogs like our last dog (a poodle cocker mix), and ive really tryied to explain to her that we need rules and stuff but she usually just say yeah yeah...but not give me credit D:

Humans, especially mothers, are notoriously difficult to train.

And while a little spoiling is perfectly fine, it it not fine that the other family members totally ignore your wishes. That shows a lack of respect.

You need to have a serious talk with them and let them know that a total lack of discipline and disregard for your rules could potentially end up with something happening that would mean having to rehome (if lucky!) one or both dogs or even in the dog/s having to be put down.

While they don't have to be a strict as you probably are, they need to be basically on the same page (just as your parents were or should have been with you when you were growing up). Perhaps agree (and sign a contract if necessary) on a few basic house rules that everyone can agree on and enforce.

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since my brother return to live with us the dogs have been from not just ok to worse. They used to sleep outside of my room, but in the house, then they went out from 6.00 am to aprox 1-3 pm since i came from school, from there they spend some time with my mom on her room or with me training/playing.

Now they do as they please and since both my brother and my mother can stand them crying or whinning they let them in the house even if they were mid cry.....

Yesterday i talked with a trainer who have met the girls both inside and outside my house, he told me (as the other trainer) that maybe im just chasing my tail here, the real problem is that sookie is the spoiled one and she knows it, havanna on the other hand needs to demostrate her value and acts like she acts (thats my fault since i saw that as confidence in herself....so much to learn from dogs U.u). He recomennded that the return to the old habits of stay on the patio and only take them outside one on one and ignore the other dog if she cryed until it was her time to go out.

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i found this "program" http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=cdx;id=61;url=http%3A%2F%2Fk9deb%2Ecom%2Fsocialis%2Ehtm i really want to give it a try i have some questions tho.... since i have 2 dogs should i ignore them if the play togheter, or in the house, another thing they both seem to go to my mom for attention when i wont get them attention. I told my mom that she should ignore the request but if its sookie she tries but she pat her as soon as sookie walks the other way.....if its havanna she push her away and scream at me to get my dog....

Im saving up to buy the pack structure dvd.....i know it was on sale but i bought the motivation one so i do not have money now, but i really want to start to work on something with them....

Any advice would be awesome and thanks for bumping Connie

I'm definitely not an expert, but if I read the website correctly, it seems to imply two or three days is all it takes. I'm not so sure I agree with that.

2 or 3 of acting aloof with the dogs...the start the NILIF stuff

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