ian bunbury wrote 06/13/2014 09:31 AM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391623 - 06/13/2014 09:31 AM
ian bunbury Webboard User Reg: 01-19-2012 Posts: 685 Loc: whistler bc ca Offline	here's my response kelly . . . the poem wasn't directed at the " mutual " friend , so she should mind her own business and stay out of it . beyond that , i'd consider just how much of a " friend " that person really is , given that she feels that it is her right to push her beliefs ( or lack thereof ) on others , while not allowing others the free will to believe in theirs . you just keep on keeping on , you know that your poem was offered with the best of intentions and hopefully the friend that lost the dog takes some comfort in that . one last thing , you take the high road and make sure that this dispute remains between you and the mutual " friend " . don't let this unnecessary drama add stress to your friends' grieving process . just let her know that you are there to support her . dogs : the best part of being human
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Kristin Muntz wrote 06/13/2014 10:34 AM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391624 - 06/13/2014 10:34 AM
Kristin Muntz Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2012 Posts: 746 Loc: Offline	If someone's good hearted gesture causes such ridiculous anger in another person, who only WITNESSED the gesture, that person needs to stare in the mirror for a while. Coming from an agnostic with a christian background. I try to be respectful of everyone because I like having respect returned. There is no need to attack others over their faith, or their expression thereof, unless it actually hurts another person. Please don't let one troll change your outlook.
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Anne Jones wrote 06/13/2014 01:36 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391629 - 06/13/2014 01:36 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	I don't understand why the mutual friend took such offense to something not directed to her or him. The poem was for your friend that lost their dog....& available to view for any mutual friends if they chose to view it. If they took offense that is their problem. If they are so convinced that their beliefs are founded, to the exclusion of other beliefs, then they should understand that there are those out there that will not feel the same & deal with it. Wouldn't it be awful if we could not make our own choices of belief & even worse if we had to base our friendships to only those that held all of our same beliefs to the exclusion of all others. We would loose out on some wonderful friendships. Kel, your words are always so heartfelt & welcome, please don't let this stop you from continuing to share them. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Candi Campbell wrote 06/13/2014 03:44 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391630 - 06/13/2014 03:44 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	I heartily AGREE with everyone else who responded here -- I'm half Jewish & half Christian ... One of my sons is a Buddhist, and the other is an agnostic (OY VEY, LOL) We believe in Loving-Kindness !!! And the older I get, the more I realize that life is way too short & much too stressful to maintain contact with so-called "friends" or even family members who only want to make other people as cranky and Sour and BITTER as they are themselves.
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Mara Jessup wrote 06/13/2014 08:44 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391637 - 06/13/2014 08:44 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	So a good friend, who believes in God, lost her dog. You comfort her with a heartfelt poem that mentions God and is reflective of both what you and your friend believe. And another "friend" has the audacity to call you out in a PM? It's not you, Kelly. If the mention of God (or anything in that vein) bothers a person so much that they need to police what is on *other's* FB walls then they should really be using some sort of blocker so they don't see it. As far as what you post here, it is very heartfelt, very you, and very much appreciated. As one who believes in God, I can honestly say that I appreciate genuine compassion regardless of the religious (or lack of) beliefs of the one offering it. The world needs all the compassion people can offer. K-9 Knitter
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Bob Scott wrote 06/14/2014 12:31 AM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391640 - 06/14/2014 12:31 AM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	A simple example that always made sense to me from a person I always enjoyed watching/listening to and respected. Carl Sagan was an atheist. He once said that even though he didn't believe in God, as a scientist he said he would never say there wasn't a God simply because he had no scientific proof. That sure makes a lot more sense then going off on someone that doesn't have the same beliefs as you. Have respect and if you disagree then disagree with class and not aggression! HEY! I think we do that here don't we! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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tracey holden wrote 06/14/2014 02:57 AM Re: Beliefs [Re: Bob Scott ] #391642 - 06/14/2014 02:57 AM
tracey holden Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2010 Posts: 1442 Loc: UK Offline	Quote: Bob Scott HEY! I think we do that here don't we! ... and that is why this is the only forum I participate on now!
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Betty Landercasp wrote 06/15/2014 09:51 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391674 - 06/15/2014 09:51 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	Anyone who thinks there is NO power in the universe higher than themselves, be it a God, or science, or nature, or karma, just hasn't lived long enough to get proper humility. None of us have the answers to the questions in life. So my vote is "Post Away". You are sharing, you are empathetic, you are reaching out. If someone takes offense, the problem lies with them, not with you. http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Bob Scott wrote 06/15/2014 10:33 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Kelly ] #391675 - 06/15/2014 10:33 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Well said Betty! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Betty Waldron wrote 06/15/2014 10:53 PM Re: Beliefs [Re: Bob Scott ] #391677 - 06/15/2014 10:53 PM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Quote: It's not you, Kelly. If the mention of God (or anything in that vein) bothers a person so much that they need to police what is on *other's* FB walls then they should really be using some sort of blocker so they don't see it. This. Obviously the other person has a problem and that is out of your control. What a sad world it would be if we stopped offering comfort because it may offend a third person............. Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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