David Winners wrote 08/31/2014 07:09 AM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393303 - 08/31/2014 07:09 AM
David Winners Webboard User Reg: 07-03-2009 Posts: 705 Loc: Bryan, Ohio Offline	Load the video into windows live movie maker and edit it down. I should have the "posting videos" read me done today.
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Bob Scott wrote 08/31/2014 10:52 PM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393312 - 08/31/2014 10:52 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Betty, go at "bring the pliers" the same way you look at any retrieve. You want him to be comfortable with the object so before you toss it get the dog to take them from you hand (reward worthy), hold, reward worthy, carry them, reward worthy and then a clean out. Again, reward worthy. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/01/2014 10:10 PM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: David Winners ] #393324 - 09/01/2014 10:10 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: David Winners Load the video into windows live movie maker and edit it down. I should have the "posting videos" read me done today. Thank you, David! Not a major rush ..... folks will need their videos for sure in a couple of weeks, and early practice is good, but still, training can be happening immediately.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/03/2014 06:16 PM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393354 - 09/03/2014 06:16 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	bump
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Maggie MacDonald wrote 09/03/2014 09:27 PM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393357 - 09/03/2014 09:27 PM
Maggie MacDonald Webboard User Reg: 04-15-2013 Posts: 227 Loc: US Offline	Well, Bak will not hold paper in his mouth and my challenge was to get him to retrieve the mail. I tried using a wooden dumbbell but nada to that too. I will keep working with the dumbell as I know he will grow to enjoy it in time. He is getting jumping up to the mail box, spring it open and take the mail out but he drops it like it's on fire. It wouldn't be what I described if he just gets the mail and drops it so I don't know what to do.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/03/2014 10:01 PM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Maggie MacDonald ] #393358 - 09/03/2014 10:01 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Maggie MacDonald Well, Bak will not hold paper in his mouth and my challenge was to get him to retrieve the mail. I tried using a wooden dumbbell but nada to that too. I will keep working with the dumbell as I know he will grow to enjoy it in time. He is getting jumping up to the mail box, spring it open and take the mail out but he drops it like it's on fire. It wouldn't be what I described if he just gets the mail and drops it so I don't know what to do. Backchain! That is, releasing the paper to me, preceded by picking up and holding the paper, etc., would be what I'd be working on. Every increment of those two chain-links is a mark/reward action.
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Maggie MacDonald wrote 09/04/2014 12:30 AM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393363 - 09/04/2014 12:30 AM
Maggie MacDonald Webboard User Reg: 04-15-2013 Posts: 227 Loc: US Offline	Thanks Connie, I have been doing exactly that but he is adamant that paper is vile and he doesn't understand why I am not saying Yuck! Will continue trying. Too bad mail doesn't come in duct tape.
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Kristin Muntz wrote 09/04/2014 07:13 AM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393367 - 09/04/2014 07:13 AM
Kristin Muntz Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2012 Posts: 746 Loc: Offline	Take an envelope and cover it in Duct Tape! Seriously! I started my trick planning by gathering the kids bath toys that Duke is never allowed to have and ALWAYS trying to filch. If Duct tape works, you can generalize from there (which is what you're working on with the dumbbell, I know)
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Betty Landercasp wrote 09/04/2014 08:21 AM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393368 - 09/04/2014 08:21 AM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	I sent Connie a blurb of our plier work, will try to get it on here. I can email it, but don't seem to be able to post it. For the pliers and Maggie your guy with the paper I'm finding that if I reward only better attempts he will hold the pliers longer and carry them farther. Like he's getting "used" to them. When I tried to do a more formal, like Bob recommended "take" and "hold" , my guy got bucky, like I was trying to force him, all sort of "Well, if it's going to be like THAT I'm not playing!, I'm not doing it at ALL, keep your grilled chicken!" I'm sure that's my fault as trainer, also my guy doesn't want me to touch him. Taking the pliers from my hand was starting to be too close for comfort for him. http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Maggie MacDonald wrote 09/04/2014 10:09 AM Re: Folks who would like help with their contest work [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393369 - 09/04/2014 10:09 AM
Maggie MacDonald Webboard User Reg: 04-15-2013 Posts: 227 Loc: US Offline	Thanks Kirsten and Betty - I am going to get a role of duck tape. Bucky is a good word Betty .. I will also get him bacon ... maybe soak the duct tape in bacon. It's all junk mail anyway
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