interesting about the legal, only one state banned it but I just caught on the news they are lifting the ban and inviting hunters back into delicate national parks due to the hog numbers increasing exponentially due to the failed ban.

other states legal, my state it's game on.

hogs are so smart, they work thee edge of the no hunt zones, national parks, where the trail cameras are to identify hunters, they feed on adjacent crops and when pressured they run straight to the cameras and then stop running. dogs don't like the new recall techniques imposed on them.

lurcher is not a word we use much, I think the purists insist a lurcher is a sight hound border collie cross,which technically excludes the bullygrey from that def.

the extra collie brains was for evading capture on the lordship's estate. the dogs were literally used by the poor to put food on the table while the lordships wanted same food for sport.

the name is one of much derision of the lower classes that had to hunt to eat. the dogs if caught met a horrible death. I guess the breeding was too underground to be formalised and developed.

lurcher is subdivided into several other types as well, can't remember the subdivisions.

Good to hear about the ban being lifted.

Lurcher - First cross with a greyhound. "Normallly" a Greyhound Collie cross but use determines the cross so a Border Collie Whippet is still considered a Lurcher as is a Whippet terrier cross for a small fast dog on bunnies.

There is or was a long time Lurcher breeder in GB that uses Bearded Collies with the Greyhound.

Long dog. Lurcher to lurcher coss.

Staghound - A term used mostly here in the states to designate a cross with.......Staghound. DUH!

For pure speed the sight hound is often a Greyhound but for endurance the Saluki is often used.

The Afghan is noted to be the fastest across rough ground but I've not seen any of that cross.

I "believe" the Gypsies were the first to create the Lurcher.

don't know that for a fact though.

this might be relevant to the discussion, a oz almost extinct purpose bred dog, the roo-hound;

staghound and roohound are interchangeable words with the same dog here, great catch in the video, don't click if you are against dogs killing prey (an introduced pest annihilating a fragile ecology in this case);

http://www.kangaroodog.org/index.php?page=Kangaroo-dog-hunting

Raven's staghound lines, at least, are all large sighthounds, so if we go back far enough, there are borzoi and Scottish deerhounds along with greyhounds. The broken coat is fabulous. It's mostly waterproof (though she looks like a werewolf when she's wet--totally scary), and I know from experience that it is easy to clean cow poop out of it. There is a lot of variety in stag coats, though. Raven is one of the less shaggy.
I think we will work on meeting as many greys as we can and go from there.

 Quote: Bob Scott

I know of a number of racing Greyhounds gotten through rescue groups.

To a dog I've only heard of them spoken of as couch potatoes in the house.

Peter, aren't the BullGreys what the many would call a Lurcher?

I suspect their biggest use down under would be as hog dogs or catch dogs with range cattle?

With the hog being such a serious pest over there would hunting them with dogs be legal?

Yes, we would call any sighthound outcross a "Lurcher" -- Lure Coursing & Open Field Coursing with ALL the purebred sighthound breeds are HUGE in the Whippet Fancy especially, as are oval track & straightaway sprinting here in America ... These are all Field Trial sports NOT professional "dog track" racing !!! I have lure coursed a number of Basenjis, Borzoi, Greyhounds, Irish Wolfhounds, and Whippets to their AKC Field Championships on the ASFA circuit in California

A complete aside, but got to mention it-

The most incredible dog I ever met or saw was a male greyhound/lurcher on a real cattle ranch in Nebraska. Something like a borzoi, but not. He stood at LEAST 36" at the shoulder, was bright yellow in color, like a golden retriever, with a coarse wiry coat, not long. He had black pigment, nose, lips and eyeliner, a big laughing mouth at least a foot deep, and he was tied up with a 3" wide leather collar on what looked like a log chain.

They had a pack of them to hunt coyotes. The males were all way bigger than the females, and the coats of the females were softer.

It was absolutely a beautiful, incredible dog.

The whole pack was amazing to me, laying about in the shade. Looked like something I imagine in Saudi Arabia.

 Quote: Becca Fuentes

The broken coat is fabulous. It's mostly waterproof -- easy to clean cow poop out of it.

The short broken coat of an Irish Wolfhound really IS practically waterproof -- Both my IW's and Borzoi (long silky coat) could be ear-deep in mud or sand from the field, but be completely CLEAN by the time we got back home ... I never figured out quite how that was possible, LOL, but I sure loved it

Betty, that sounds about right for a stag. Raven's breeder has a huge, brindle male like that (I have a total canine crush on him). Man, makes me really wish I could handle another stag puppy right now.

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More times they I care to admit I went from hunting in the ground one day to the show ring the next day with my first Border terrier with nothing but a good brushing. Ofter that wasn't even needed.

I love the hard/rough coated dogs.


My GSDs get wet and drip for an hour. My hard coated terriers would go in the creek and do nothing but shake off to feel perfectly dry.