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 Quote: Brianah Maloney

I will guess i am not welcomed here by leerburg, then I won't return?
Yes or no?

My question is, if your brining a pup to work with you, but still leaving in crate... Isnt that still a pup in crate? Even if the pup is left in car getting bathrom breaks every three hours, isn't the pup then left back in crate?

I see no point in asking those questions other than to be argumentative and ask for drama.

No, its true question, should I not return?

If my posts are going to have responses like "ask your club," because of a past post. I won't feel welcome, and won't come back, no arguements needed. I'm stressed enough eith recent loss of multiple loved ones, I have enough on plate.

Truly a question.

I am assuming you expecting the puppy to learn to pee & poop in the x-pen. 5/6 hours seems like a long time to hold itself.

if possible taking the dog to work is a great option. there are no dogs where I work so improbable there would be disease.

everyone loves a puppy and a few minutes of random loving on by strangers is great socialisation and extreme stimulation, then empty bowels, a few minutes of high energy food luring into positions...puppy is ready for sleep, rinse repeat several times a day. of course this option is depends on yr work place.

Wait.... I feel like there's some sort of deal with a bit o comunication here.

Bathroom breaks are bathroom breaks. Not training breaks.
If I'm taking puppy to the bathroom, then putting him back in crate when he's done.., he's still primarily in a crate that entire time. As he is not getting mental stimulation high drive pup requires.

Im concerned about puppy not getting stimulation, for 5-6 hours a day.

Isolation in an empty room as well, until vaccinations are complete.

Is this acceptable? Will he loose his mind?

What do you all do with your puppies the high drive ones before vaccinations she you are not available to train or give mental stimulation for 5-6 hours?
Thank you!
And thank you to others whom already told me why the do.
I did read your comments, thank you.


Ahh puppy will not be getting a training break, but yes will be let out to bathroom. Not by me, but a ringsport buddy of mine I made aramgemets with last month. (He's raised mals. And is 100 percent trustable with puppy)
No training breaks with puppy, bathroom, bit o praise, back to crate after any messes are cleaned. That's for 5-6 hours.

 Quote: Brianah Maloney

Anyways, this break is for what I assume a potty break? Not a training break, not an hour with the puppy?

Obviously my main concern is having a high drive puppy lack mental stimulation while I am at work. This is what I worry about. Can a high drive puppy be "isolated" for 5-6hours a day? Or is this lack of mental stimulation inappropriate for high drive pup?

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I have my dogs crated for 4 hours at a time. If they need that split for a potty break I can do that too. So Exercise/breakfast, 2 hours in crate, potty break, 2 hours in crate, then 1 hour lunch training/walk sesssion, 2 hours in crate and out until bedtime.

Otherwise, if they don't need the extra potty break its Morning exercise/breakfast then 4 hours in crate, then 1 hour walk/obedience. Back in the crate for 3.5 hours. Then back out after work.

Isolated for 6 hours is ok, if they are safe. Just as far as potty breaks, that might be too long.

Have your schedule set so exercise/obedience etc is done both BEFORE and AFTER crating. You don't want to put a high drive puppy in a crate wound up LOL

 Quote: Brianah Maloney

Im concerned about puppy not getting stimulation, for 5-6 hours a day.

Isolation in an empty room as well, until vaccinations are complete.

Is this acceptable? Will he loose his mind?

What do you all do with your puppies the high drive ones before vaccinations she you are not available to train or give mental stimulation for 5-6 hours?
Thank you!
And thank you to others whom already told me why the do.
I did read your comments, thank you.

I don't isolate my puppies until vaccines are complete. I just don't bring them to places other, loose dogs frequent.

Loose in a room - never.

Yes they will be fine for that time IF you have exercised them sufficiently before they go in so they are tired. Then they just sleep. If they aren't tired before going in there, you can have a puppy learning to be frustrated in the crate. Or a puppy looking to escape.

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 Quote: Brianah Maloney

Anyways, this break is for what I assume a potty break? Not a training break, not an hour with the puppy?

Obviously my main concern is having a high drive puppy lack mental stimulation while I am at work. This is what I worry about. Can a high drive puppy be "isolated" for 5-6hours a day? Or is this lack of mental stimulation inappropriate for high drive pup?

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I have my dogs crated for 4 hours at a time. If they need that split for a potty break I can do that too. So Exercise/breakfast, 2 hours in crate, potty break, 2 hours in crate, then 1 hour lunch training/walk sesssion, 2 hours in crate and out until bedtime.

Otherwise, if they don't need the extra potty break its Morning exercise/breakfast then 4 hours in crate, then 1 hour walk/obedience. Back in the crate for 3.5 hours. Then back out after work.

Isolated for 6 hours is ok, if they are safe. Just as far as potty breaks, that might be too long.

Have your schedule set so exercise/obedience etc is done both BEFORE and AFTER crating. You don't want to put a high drive puppy in a crate wound up LOL

Thank you for insight to your day, very simalir to many people I know. Dogs worked during morning, very early, crated, then bathroom break or training break in afternoon during lunch, then after work they take the dog out for our meets or classes.
Dogs crated during 9-5 work hours.


I have been hearing online, that crating or confining any high drive pup or dog more than 3-4 hours a day total, is unacceptable.

Hearing opposite from breeders and friends leaves me confused and worried for puppy, this pup is my life.

I don't want to be doing the wrong thing and crating a dog for unreasonable hours and not giving him the absolute nessasry mental stimualtion he needs.
You actually crate longer hours than I need too, through the total hours per day crated.
Very reassuring to hear how others crate as well.

After vaccinations are complete, at18-20 weeks, puppy will be with me at work and can play and train with me on and off all day every single day. No need to crate or xpen then. Other than for training pup to be confortable with crate, or keeping him managed and safe while I am not supervising 100 percent.

 Quote: Niomi Smith

 Quote: Brianah Maloney

Im concerned about puppy not getting stimulation, for 5-6 hours a day.

Isolation in an empty room as well, until vaccinations are complete.

Is this acceptable? Will he loose his mind?

What do you all do with your puppies the high drive ones before vaccinations she you are not available to train or give mental stimulation for 5-6 hours?
Thank you!
And thank you to others whom already told me why the do.
I did read your comments, thank you.

I don't isolate my puppies until vaccines are complete. I just don't bring them to places other, loose dogs frequent.

Loose in a room - never.

Yes they will be fine for that time IF you have exercised them sufficiently before they go in so they are tired. Then they just sleep. If they aren't tired before going in there, you can have a puppy learning to be frustrated in the crate. Or a puppy looking to escape.

Its just ever single job I have has dogs loose all around. Some I get are also not vaccinated. Due to vaccine effects.
Puppy will be isolated either at home or in safe clean places at work until he can be around high dog traffic areas.
Even vaccinated dogs aren't garenteed. Some times vaccinations dont work.

Scares me, I may just leave puppy at home instead of isolation at work...
No difference, he's still isolated 5-6 hours.
No training, no other dogs, just a desensitization CD on, TV on, and bathroom break.

Thanks for helping!!

When you're talking high drive puppy, what breed/type are you talking about?

Its a surprise! You have to wait and see! I promised pictures and video to all who care!!
All anybody knows is it is male, and he will be between 40 -50 pounds as adult.

I have no advice then... High drive can mean different things for different types of breeds. Maybe the reason why you're getting so much conflicting advice is that you're not giving people the fullest picture that you could.