Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397048 - 02/25/2015 11:30 AM |
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$100 says there is a good dose of St Bernard in there.
LOL, my guess would be more like Bullmastiff
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397053 - 02/25/2015 10:56 PM |
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Doubtful they would toss a St. Bernard in the mix with all that coat.
Even the smooth coated Saints have a heavier coat then the average GSD. Just something else to eliminate in the breedings.
Lots of large bully/Mastiff types though.
My first though would be a AB, CC or a Presa mix.
My brother always gets comments about his Presa.
"Wow! That's the biggest Pit I've ever seen".
"What kind of Pit mix is that"?
The most intelligent, if you can call it that is;
"Is that a Bandog"?
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397058 - 02/26/2015 02:58 AM |
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it's like a curse has been put on the bull breeds, they attract a lot of very "special" people.
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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Doubtful they would toss a St. Bernard in the mix with all that coat.
Even the smooth coated Saints have a heavier coat then the average GSD. Just something else to eliminate in the breedings.
Lots of large bully/Mastiff types though.
My first though would be a AB, CC or a Presa mix.
My brother always gets comments about his Presa.
"Wow! That's the biggest Pit I've ever seen".
"What kind of Pit mix is that"?
The most intelligent, if you can call it that is;
"Is that a Bandog"?
AGREED -- As to The Hulk in question, we definitely see a Pitbull / Am-Staff "punkin-head",
but just like with all the Bandog Types, don't tell me there aren't a few mastiff genes in there
Meantime, wanna take a GUESS at Moose's breeding, below ???
http://www.dobiesandlittlepawsrescue.org/Moose.html
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397064 - 02/26/2015 02:19 PM |
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can we spare a thought for the innocent victims in this, the dogs.
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397069 - 02/26/2015 10:33 PM |
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"We are recommending Moose for a home with no children because he is a resource guarder and got upset when we tried to take a tennis ball from him. We are recommending him for an adult home with no toys around that can make him agitated like that since he has been such a sweetie otherwise".
SOOOOOOOOOOO wrong!
In other words the people that may want to adopt this dog will be told to step lightly or he may get aggressive.
Sometimes rescue groups make me want to bang my head against a wall.
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397078 - 02/27/2015 09:49 AM |
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Yep. And despite the warning signs, he goes to some home where it mauls the neighbor's kid who is playing ball outside, and another innocent dog is taken away and put down, and the reputation of the breed gets dragged through the mud. same old story.
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397084 - 02/27/2015 01:45 PM |
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Doubtful they would toss a St. Bernard in the mix with all that coat.
Even the smooth coated Saints have a heavier coat then the average GSD. Just something else to eliminate in the breedings.
Lots of large bully/Mastiff types though.
My first though would be a AB, CC or a Presa mix.
My brother always gets comments about his Presa.
"Wow! That's the biggest Pit I've ever seen".
"What kind of Pit mix is that"?
The most intelligent, if you can call it that is;
"Is that a Bandog"?
AGREED -- As to The Hulk in question, we definitely see a Pitbull / Am-Staff "punkin-head",
but just like with all the Bandog Types, don't tell me there aren't a few mastiff genes in there
Meantime, wanna take a GUESS at Moose's breeding, below ???
http://www.dobiesandlittlepawsrescue.org/Moose.html
For Bob and Duane:
WOW guys, I have a different perspective on out-placing "Moose" to an appropriate adoptive home, rather than relegating him to a Sanctuary Kennel for the rest of his life OR automatically putting him down...
Just about all full-grown rescue dogs come with at least one issue that must be Addressed & Solved -- Most of these previously unwanted canines have had virtually No Pack Structure Discipline, No House Manners Training, No Obedience Lessons, No Adequate Socialization, etc.
All sorts of Resource Guarding can be successfully managed in an Adults-Only & Dog-Savvy new home environment, IMHO -- Food / Bone Aggressive: feed-in-crate & problem solved ... Toy / Ball / Tug Possessive: trade for higher-value item & teach the "out" command OR dispense with guardable play-things entirely & problem solved, etc.
None of my dogs are ever left out in the yard unattended, where they might have a Close Encounter of the WRONG KIND with neighborhood children, either -- Anything could happen in a scenario like that, even with a Typically Trustworthy canine who had never before shown a tendency to get snarky (!)
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397102 - 02/28/2015 12:49 AM |
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Candi I agree with what your saying about all rescues have issues but reading Moose's article seems to say that the dog is going to be an issue over toys, food, etc.
This would take a VERY competent person to take this dog.
Even that, to me, is a liability on the part of the rescue organization.
Is their any efforts to control/eliminate this guarding behavior before the dog is put up for adoption?
AKA the article, I didn't read it that way.
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Re: what is wrong with some breeders?
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#397108 - 02/28/2015 09:28 AM |
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Anything could happen in a scenario like that, even with a Typically Trustworthy canine who had never before shown a tendency to get snarky (!)
Far less likely with a dog known and proven to be trustworthy than with a dog of questionably unethical breeding (or unknown genetics) who has already shown that he has behavioral defiencies.
Give a dog like that to strangers and trust that they'll never let their guard down? Not me. Just one little misstep could turn tragic.
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