Christina Stockinger wrote 08/30/2015 03:31 PM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399021 - 08/30/2015 03:31 PM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger Hi Candi, I fully agree with you. I've given up trying to convince him, especially not when I have dog on the leash. Then I have first to concentrate myself on the dog. He was upset about this and about the fact that I now avoid his street. He meanwhile calmed down, but still doesn't understand. We still meet each other, because he is a good friend, but I insist - without the presence of a dog. Thanks for answering! “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/01/2015 11:10 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399040 - 09/01/2015 11:10 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger  Quote: Christina Stockinger Hi Candi, I fully agree with you. I've given up trying to convince him, especially not when I have dog on the leash. Then I have first to concentrate myself on the dog. He was upset about this and about the fact that I now avoid his street. He meanwhile calmed down, but still doesn't understand. We still meet each other, because he is a good friend, but I insist - without the presence of a dog. Thanks for answering! I think you're handling this situation just right, Christina It's exactly like a friend, neighbor, or relative trying to tell parents how NOT to DISCIPLINE their Children
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Nicole hardman wrote 09/01/2015 03:48 PM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399042 - 09/01/2015 03:48 PM
Nicole hardman Webboard User Reg: 12-21-2014 Posts: 107 Loc: Texas Offline	This is how I would personally handle your situation: When taking daily walks I would use a harness instead of a collar. That way they can pull towards distractions all they want without creating a habit of pulling into their collars. Just hang on tight so they can't actually reach the distractions. Maintain that you have control of walk time, but they can pull. Then do collar/ distraction work very slowly. Start just a few minutes at a time in your front yard and really celebrate their accomplishments. Then when they are reliable, take a few steps out of your yard and really celebrate! Then walk past the next house and back to your yard. A little bit a t a time and they will get the hang of it. If you go too fast, they will get frustrated as you get frustrated. Red dog.
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/02/2015 11:58 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Nicole hardman ] #399052 - 09/02/2015 11:58 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Thanks to you all! Good advices! I think I have to go some steps back and accustom them to different distractions more slowly. Outwards the house - very difficult! About the harness: Until now I only used it to train the restrained recall. I always thought a harness on a dog during a walk will excite him to more pulling. How is this really' “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Bob Scott wrote 09/02/2015 11:24 PM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399065 - 09/02/2015 11:24 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	I've never been a fan of a harness other then for pulling (sled dogs) or sometimes bite work. In both those instances your creating an opposition reflex that makes the dog want to pull. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Cathy Goessman wrote 09/03/2015 12:51 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399066 - 09/03/2015 12:51 AM
Cathy Goessman Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2007 Posts: 1231 Loc: Phoenix, AZ Offline	I do keep our training mostly rewards based but I've always dealt with these limited instances with the old fashioned Koehler style right about turns. It's not the most fair to the dog but doesn't seem to produce much stress and the dog doesn't seem to "blame" you for the correction if your timing on dropping the slack is good. Combined with rewards for walking nicely it's extremely quick. A bonus is that people see that they've caused the dog to be corrected by encouraging the headlong charge.
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/03/2015 05:37 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Bob Scott ] #399067 - 09/03/2015 05:37 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Thanks for the confirmation, Bob. The same advice I had or from another trainer or a DVD, don't remember. “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Christina Stockinger wrote 09/03/2015 05:48 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Candi Campbell ] #399068 - 09/03/2015 05:48 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	That's just it, Candi. I hait it, when people imagine to know everything better and overwhelm me with chattering their opinions. I like to recieve honest opinions, but if I need some, I can ask. “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/03/2015 08:53 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399069 - 09/03/2015 08:53 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger Thanks to you all! Good advices! I think I have to go some steps back and accustom them to different distractions more slowly. Outwards the house - very difficult! About the harness: Until now I only used it to train the restrained recall. I always thought a harness on a dog during a walk will excite him to more pulling. How is this really' Yeah, I personally would not use a harness, but that's just me
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Nicole hardman wrote 09/04/2015 07:57 AM Re: neighbour as inavoidable trigger [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399082 - 09/04/2015 07:57 AM
Nicole hardman Webboard User Reg: 12-21-2014 Posts: 107 Loc: Texas Offline	Interesting. I swear I've seen leerburg videos that say to use a harness until they can walk properly in a collar. Often i will put my dog in a collar and his harness. When I attach the leash to his collar he doesn't pull, he walks just like having been given a walk command. Then, if I want him to have dome snif around free time I will unhook him from the collar, reattach it to his harness, give a "free" command, and away we go! It has worked perfectly for me. Will someone please explain why I shouldn't be doing that please? Red dog.
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