Carol Blumlein wrote 10/13/2015 02:14 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Christina Stockinger ] #399487 - 10/13/2015 02:14 PM
Carol Blumlein Webboard User Reg: 03-29-2012 Posts: 421 Loc: Offline	Quote: Christina Stockinger They are crazy about training, but not in the heat. Then they are somehow floppy. You can not have forced fun. In this situation they are simply not at all in the mood. Ditto!!
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Anne Jones wrote 10/13/2015 05:37 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399488 - 10/13/2015 05:37 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	I think that you should consider the fact that this is not the right dog for the work that you are looking to do with her. It is also possible that she is a late bloomer with very slow developing lines....although you should see some glimmers of her potential at this point. From you comments it doesn't't sound like that is the case. I have to say that all 4 of the w/l GSDs I have owned have always been ready to work anytime day, night, hot or cold the second I even look like I want to engage them. That's my idea of a high drive dog. Even the male I have now was from slow developing lines & was really turning on by 9 months old. My female was nuts right out of the box. My other 2 males .....one like my female & the other in between my female & my now male. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Bob Scott wrote 10/13/2015 11:06 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399495 - 10/13/2015 11:06 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	ALWAYS a possibility! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Christina Stockinger wrote 10/14/2015 07:16 AM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399504 - 10/14/2015 07:16 AM
Christina Stockinger Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2015 Posts: 1619 Loc: Brazil, Bahia Offline	Anne, you may be right. But it really depends on the region where you live. Hot weather there is not necessarily = hot weather here or in Annes region. It is not only a question of the degree, much more of the humidity of the air. I have not seen any dog here until now roaming about in the heat, they all go into the shadow and sleep. “If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs, then you are a leader” – Rudyard Kipling
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Duane Hull wrote 10/14/2015 07:46 AM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399507 - 10/14/2015 07:46 AM
Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011 Posts: 2692 Loc: Marrero, LA Offline	Christina... As Anne said, a dog with good drives can be put in drive regardless of the heat. My dog awakes from a sound sleep with bright eyes and ears up, ready to spring if I set a foot on the floor. A dog that decides when it wants to work does not have solid drives and may also be lacking in work ethic. I live in South Louisiana, in the heat and HUMIDITY. Our dogs train any time, day or night. We have to make sure they take breaks in the heat, as they will not stop working on their own. You must also take into account whether the dog is being properly acclimated. You can't house the dog in air conditioning, then expect it to be enthusiastic about going out into the heat. If you expect a dog to work outdoors during the day, the dog should be spending its time outdoors and not in the AC. Sadie
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Candi Campbell wrote 10/14/2015 11:04 AM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Duane Hull ] #399510 - 10/14/2015 11:04 AM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 03-28-2013 Posts: 1571 Loc: Offline	Quote: Duane Hull Christina... As Anne said, a dog with good drives can be put in drive regardless of the heat. My dog awakes from a sound sleep with bright eyes and ears up, ready to spring if I set a foot on the floor. A dog that decides when it wants to work does not have solid drives and may also be lacking in work ethic. I live in South Louisiana, in the heat and HUMIDITY. Our dogs train any time, day or night. We have to make sure they take breaks in the heat, as they will not stop working on their own. You must also take into account whether the dog is being properly acclimated. You can't house the dog in air conditioning, then expect it to be enthusiastic about going out into the heat. If you expect a dog to work outdoors during the day, the dog should be spending its time outdoors and not in the AC. Duane, she's in the Tropics and her dogs live outdoors, IIRC
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Carol Blumlein wrote 10/14/2015 01:15 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Anne Jones ] #399512 - 10/14/2015 01:15 PM
Carol Blumlein Webboard User Reg: 03-29-2012 Posts: 421 Loc: Offline	Quote: Anne Jones I think that you should consider the fact that this is not the right dog for the work that you are looking to do with her. It is also possible that she is a late bloomer with very slow developing lines....although you should see some glimmers of her potential at this point. From you comments it doesn't't sound like that is the case. I have to say that all 4 of the w/l GSDs I have owned have always been ready to work anytime day, night, hot or cold the second I even look like I want to engage them. That's my idea of a high drive dog. Even the male I have now was from slow developing lines & was really turning on by 9 months old. My female was nuts right out of the box. My other 2 males .....one like my female & the other in between my female & my now male. Anne, I agree and this is most likely the case. But she has great persistence, focus, great food drive and some degree of ball drive which I am working on. So, although protection will most likely not happen, I am working toward a BH and am learning to track along with her. She is showing great promise for the track. That will be about as far as I will be able to take her, but that will be farther than I have ever gone since I am a beginner. Today, I took her morning breakfast up to the park where, I am training. We divided the routines of the BH up, and I rewarded each with lively food delivery. It was way better. Love her intense eye contact.
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Anne Jones wrote 10/14/2015 01:18 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399513 - 10/14/2015 01:18 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	We get high 90s w/90+ per cent humidity for days & a week or more at a time during summers in Connecticut. My dogs still spend much of the day outside then & are still ready to go when I am ready to work them. My female will go until she drops if I don't force her to stop. Search dogs, K9s ext don't get the day off because it's hot & humid. That's what HIGH drive is. High drive dogs live to work regardless of the weather conditions. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Anne Jones wrote 10/14/2015 01:25 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Carol Blumlein ] #399514 - 10/14/2015 01:25 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Like I said have fun, both of you, & take her as far as you can. It is still a learning experience for you & will make you more knowledgee for you to take your next dog farther. Often a very high drive dog can be a bit too much for a beginner. Their demands can be very time consuming. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Carol Blumlein wrote 10/14/2015 01:46 PM Re: Training at different times of day [Re: Anne Jones ] #399515 - 10/14/2015 01:46 PM
Carol Blumlein Webboard User Reg: 03-29-2012 Posts: 421 Loc: Offline	Quote: Anne Jones We get high 90s w/90+ per cent humidity for days & a week or more at a time during summers in Connecticut. My dogs still spend much of the day outside then & are still ready to go when I am ready to work them. My female will go until she drops if I don't force her to stop. Search dogs, K9s ext don't get the day off because it's hot & humid. That's what HIGH drive is. High drive dogs live to work regardless of the weather conditions. That is what I believe also!!
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