 Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
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Call me lazy but I love the food driven dog, life just seems easier....no shoulders pulled out of their sockets, I can reward laying down on the couch, I might even be able to nap. My poor pup is putting lots of effort into getting me to be a more motivated tugger as it should be. A wise trainer told me, the energy from the dog for the game should be greater than yours once they know the game; if its not put the toy and the dog away.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#399957 - 11/28/2015 11:31 PM |
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Use whatever works with each individual dog.
There are some excellent dogs out there that will work only for food, or only for a toy, etc.
Don't try so hard to work the dog with what works for someone else and their dog.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Nicole hardman ]
#399960 - 11/29/2015 05:03 AM |
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Live prey? Ethics aside, it's an interesting idea. Maybe a flopping live fish on a flirt! Ha ha ha  Of course I didn't mean it like that, Nicole! I don't chase, don't fish nor breed prey animals in order to entertain my dogs.  All I wanted to say with this was, that a live prey would be the only one that motivates them. We
find frequently dead bats,little monkeys,snakes, humming birds or ratlike mammals on our veranda in the morning.
Two of our dogs are free in the yard during the night, and as the whole property is surrounded by walls, just with a small door with bars, where little animals can enter, so we know it must have been them.
Means: They must have plenty of prey drive, but evidentally I must be a rdiculous idiot for them, who isn't able to imitate the live prey believably enough. They really look at me, as if they were thinking: "What the hell is she doing?" You´re right,hahaha! 
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#399961 - 11/29/2015 06:16 AM |
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Use whatever works with each individual dog.
There are some excellent dogs out there that will work only for food, or only for a toy, etc.
Don't try so hard to work the dog with what works for someone else and their dog.
I'm not trying as hard, as you might think, Bob. I don't like to make my life and that of my dogs difficult because of this. I like a ing life and ing dgs. But it's true, I'm thinking hard, what I'm doing wrong. I also know, that there are lots of dogs, who are completely food orientated. But all 4 ? Seems very strange.
Additionally, I don't want fat dogs. Not because I´d not love a fat dog less, but because it's not healthy for them. I feed them only in the evening, the most part of their daily portion goes into training (raw food). No treats between. But with food driven dogs and jackpotting (randomly!!!) especially the Lab has the tendency to put on weight. One reason more to reward with the more exhusting tugging. (For myself too!)
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: ian bunbury ]
#399962 - 11/29/2015 05:49 AM |
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No, they don't have unrestricted access to each other. With one of the Pits this always coud be a risk. But alternatly two of them are together. They sometimes play with each other, but most of the time they are sleeping.
I'm sure that your impression about them not having enough fun with me, is wrong. I undertake a lot with my dogs and it is very important to me that we have fun together. They come running immediately, when I'm giving the cue, that we are going to do something together. They are waiting impatiently, when the regular training times are approching and whining, when I´m 5 minutes later than usual. During training, walking, swimming, they are well engaged with me. (Nothing perfect of course)
It is just this one darned tugging, which I must accentuate I never force. I´m only trying it for a very short time, hoping that one day in probably distant future they will find out that this can be fun and then will be a reward.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
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Call me lazy but I love the food driven dog, life just seems easier....no shoulders pulled out of their sockets, I can reward laying down on the couch, I might even be able to nap. My poor pup is putting lots of effort into getting me to be a more motivated tugger as it should be. A wise trainer told me, the energy from the dog for the game should be greater than yours once they know the game; if its not put the toy and the dog away.
What your trainer said I think is absolutely true.The energy shoud come from the dog. But how can it come, when they don't have the idea, that this game can be great fun. They will first have to discover this in tiny lessons,they are in a learning phase, without trying no result.
But - yes - when there is no drive, I put the tug away.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Cheri Grissom ]
#399967 - 11/30/2015 05:46 AM |
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Thanks Cheri! Very reasonable advice! I really do think it will be the best to leave it frr a short while and then restart with a fresher mind.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#399972 - 11/30/2015 11:03 AM |
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My GSD had no interest in tug when I got her. No matter how much I tried to motivate her, she was not interested. However, as soon as I started backchaining the retrieve and she developed some drive for the object, her interest in tugging skyrocketed. But then, we already covered that in your previous thread about building drive for tug.
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Re: Dogs who don't play tug of war
[Re: Christina Stockinger ]
#399973 - 11/30/2015 12:40 PM |
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I know how awesome those videos look when you are watching these famous trainers having an incredibly lively game of tug with their super high drive dogs.
I have no doubt they would not have as much success with other dogs.
My girl was not too much of a tugger, but she will tug a ball on a string!!! Presumably because I will throw it? Who knows?
I would pay a good price to watch a "world class" trainer train a less than world class dog.
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