Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#400548 - 04/04/2016 07:30 AM |
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I think any Joe citizen that does searches most anywhere will create a legal mess if they aren't called to do so buy a legit organization such as the local police, Hwy Patrol, FBI, etc.
The SAR team I was on NEVER went on a search if it wasn't called out by the above mentioned organizations.
Yup. This. Everything starts with a call from police, etc or fire department. You just don't go work a search on your own.
And I can't imagine the legalities of going off and looking for drugs on without LE authorization. It sounds like a good way to get yourself in deep trouble pretty quick. Either with LE or the people who have the drugs...
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Brian Fernandes ]
#400550 - 04/04/2016 01:22 PM |
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If you go to the linked page, you will notice that the whole story and requested amount have changed. I think this is a candidate for the scams and con artist's forum...
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Brian Fernandes ]
#400554 - 04/04/2016 11:15 PM |
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
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#400555 - 04/04/2016 11:46 PM |
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I find your label of a scam and/or con artist offensive, and am disappointed in your jumping to conclusions. If you don't want to help, don't...it is that simple really. In fact, the story is the same...the amount has changed since I am not looking for money I don't need from people. As I acquire what I need - weather purchased or donated - I need less money from people.
Thanks for your assumptions though.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Mara Jessup ]
#400556 - 04/04/2016 11:50 PM |
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Every State is different. When serving a client in a private security setting, there is no warrant requirement for administrative search for prohibited items. Should items be found, the police are contacted to take possession of any prohibited item and proceed with their own investigation.
However, I appreciate your apparent concern for the "trouble" I could find myself in. We have done our due diligence. Thanks.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Bob Scott ]
#400557 - 04/04/2016 11:53 PM |
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My employer funded half of the cost of the dog and his training. I funded the other half. I am now looking for money for further training and supplies. We are private security, and provide this additional service to clients free of charge in most cases. We appreciate working dogs, and the value they bring to public safety. While I understand your concern, there is nothing 'hokey" about it.
Thanks.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Cathy Goessman ]
#400558 - 04/05/2016 12:02 AM |
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Cathy, I too wouldn't mind an "eye roll smiley" for your post. Private Public Safety is another term for Security and/or Safety Services. Also, my past experience as Law Enforcement has nothing to do with my current employer, and/or the services we provide. A comment like that makes me suspicious of your intent here.
Moreover, the fact is that if you don't agree with my mission and goal(s), you don't donate...it is that simple really. Tax dollars often fund local/state/federal canine programs. Whereas the private sector we don't have that luxury. We often do it because we care about the service we provide more than the cost involved. I'm sorry for any other assumption you may have.
Thanks.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Brian Fernandes ]
#400559 - 04/05/2016 12:39 AM |
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We are private security, and provide this additional service to clients free of charge in most cases.
The truth comes out. I thought you were providing this service to the public?
Again, why should people fund your privately used dog?
Comparing yourself to the police simply makes me more suspicious of whether you ever actually were law enforcement. Most won't hesitate to identify the department they worked for. Why is it such a big secret for you?
For example, I was a member of the United States Army Military Police.
My BS detector is going off. Either you're a scam artist or simply delusional.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Cathy Goessman ]
#400561 - 04/05/2016 01:13 AM |
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Cathy, you’re asking me to assume in general why some people choose to help others they deem a worthy cause. I’m sorry; I don’t make assumptions as it appears you do. I choose not to operate that way.
As for the “truth coming out”, there has been complete honesty all along. I have said we are a private company that provide services to the public…I never said we are a public agency. As a private company, we serve clients who the public often frequent. We also provide coverage for large public events…some of which we donate our time to like local charities. You assumed again, and/or didn’t read my description well. I’m sorry you misunderstood our position.
Lastly, my prior law enforcement has nothing to do with this service I provide, and/or my current employer. To be frank: it’s none of anyone’s business what my past experience is. It has no bearing on anything related to this project. Moreover, most law enforcement don’t disclose on the internet their personal information pertaining to their past…how would I know you’re not someone who is anti police and a safety concern? Look how inflammatory your communications are becoming. It appears you just prefer to argue at this point.
I said it before, and I will say it again: if you don’t agree with the cause, don’t donate. It’s that simple.
Take care.
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Re: I need help your with my canine project.
[Re: Brian Fernandes ]
#400562 - 04/05/2016 08:38 AM |
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We don't know what the cause is. It was like pulling teeth to have you say that you are private security. We still have to connect our own dots to make the assumption that you work for a private security contractor. IME, most private security contractors subcontract independent dog handlers, or they hire handlers for dogs that they own. In either case, it seems TO ME that there is associated income and that what you are seeking help with is more of a business cost or personal concern than a public one. Thank you for excusing me from donating, if that is indeed the case.
I still find much of this very vague. In what way would you be serving the community outside of the private sector contracting that you mentioned? Outside of some public demonstrations and possible SAR assignments which most volunteers absorb the cost of, in what way would the community benefit from donating to this cause?
What community are we talking about? WHO is going to benefit? In your OP, it sounded like you were going to be doing volunteer work for clients of your employer's business? That, IMO, would hardly be considered, "community service".
I know that you think that I'm being disingenuous, but I'm really giving you every chance to give us a reason to donate. Give us something tangible.
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