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#400641 - 04/15/2016 01:39 PM |
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I was told that he was not good around other dogs, and I don't have anyone I know who has a well behaved dog, most people here have dogs as bear dogs, and the other half let their dogs run wild, we are lucky enough to be in the cabin area, where we have our home, and the loose dogs here are terrified of me, I caught them once and beat the crap outta them, so when they see me coming they bolt for dear life, teaches them to mess with my kids when they were biking in front of our house!
I will bait the water  hopefully before summer he will loosen up and enjoy living a pen free life!
Just this past hour I have him doing an awesome sit with full focus on my face! Maybe just talking with you lifted my spirits a bit, and rubbed off on him! How do you post pictures on here?
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Re: How do I start?
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#400642 - 04/15/2016 10:44 PM |
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Unfortunately the life of to many show dogs!
I spent about 15 yrs in the breed rings and saw to many dogs that were shown and then locked in the kennel.
Not all of course but more then I cared to see.
I'm a huge believer in marker training and even at his age there should be no reason markers wont work with him. It's all about finding a high value reward for him and it's also no pressuer, all fun for both dog and handler.
That can work for the to sensitive feet/legs also.
My brother got his Presa when it was 3 yrs old and nobody could do his nails without hog tying the dog before my brother got him.
Markers and 3-4 weeks of work and the dog now lays on his side and naps while his nails are trimmed.
As to the feeding don't let the dog dictate when and what.
Take the food up after 10 15 mins and don't put it down till the next scheduled feeding.
Someone mentioned EPI.
One of my GSDs has this.
Before he was diagnosed he lost almost 20 of his normal 80 lbs.
Stool was runny, slimy and bloody but he never lost his appetite. In fact he devoured anything put in from of him trying to get his weight up.
The dog aggression issue is something you may have to just control considering your situation.
Just try to relax and play with the dog.
He'll feed off of your stress or your happiness.
Go for having fun.....and marker training! 
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Re: How do I start?
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#400643 - 04/15/2016 11:11 PM |
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Thank you all! We had a blast while I shoveled our blizzard dump, everytime he settled down to laugh at me shoveling snow into my face I marked and rewarded, also practiced some sits and stay sits, he is smart!
Thanks for your help! Very appreciated, gives us hope he can be helped
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Re: How do I start?
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#400644 - 04/15/2016 11:44 PM |
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Read the subline under all my posts.
Been training dogs since I was a kid in the 1950s and just got started in marker training about 12-13 yrs ago.
It goes for dogs and people.
Don't ever stop learning!
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#400645 - 04/15/2016 11:52 PM |
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I can't see any sublines under posts? Blackberry is horrid for internet period, I was lucky it let me sign on here, it never had before!
He def does not have blood in his poo, it smells, but otherwise looks fine!
We just thought because he was older that he would be stuck in the kennel phase, this site is awesome! Going to re-watch those videos now!
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Re: How do I start?
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#400648 - 04/16/2016 11:06 PM |
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I will say that is a bit easier to train an older dog if it had an early foundation.
I'd never give up on a dog just because of age though especially with marker training.
It's fantastic and both you and the dog can have fun.
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#400649 - 04/17/2016 12:22 AM |
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Has he had a thorough medical work up? Sometimes a medical issue can exasperate behavioral issues.
You mention his teeth being not so good. Could there be a broken one somewhere? Those can abscess and can lead to mouth pain and a huge reluctance to eat. I know of a senior dog who's owner thought they were in their last legs when they found a tooth issue. Took care of that and it was like they had a new dog again.
Low thyroid can also lead to wonky behavior.
Muscular or skeletal pain can be a big source of fear or anxiety.
Of course it all could be from mistreatment in his previous home (I had a dog like that and it took lots of time for her to come out but when she did it was beautiful) but it's well worth exploring the medical side if it hasn't been done already.
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#400650 - 04/17/2016 10:36 PM |
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Has he had a thorough medical work up? Sometimes a medical issue can exasperate behavioral issues.
I had her vet him before she sent him, had him neutered, microchipped and I would never use that vet again, they didn't bother to look at his teeth, we live where there is no vet, and at $580 one way for him to fly, he will have to wait til we go down in July. I will find a different vet and get him a full check up!
You mention his teeth being not so good. Could there be a broken one somewhere? Those can abscess and can lead to mouth pain and a huge reluctance to eat. I know of a senior dog who's owner thought they were in their last legs when they found a tooth issue. Took care of that and it was like they had a new dog again.
I have been checking his mouth daily, the plaque is bad, and all the bottom front teeth are worn down to small nubs, his one fang looks half gone and the other side looks like it has been broken for awhile, I touched all the teeth and it didn't seem to bother him, but once we head down, I am going to have all the teeth checked treated.
Low thyroid can also lead to wonky behavior.
Muscular or skeletal pain can be a big source of fear or anxiety.
Of course it all could be from mistreatment in his previous home (I had a dog like that and it took lots of time for her to come out but when she did it was beautiful) but it's well worth exploring the medical side if it hasn't been done already.
Since saturday he has been finishing most of his food, and since we stopped using the collar he has been more focused, has sat/laid down at every command, and even ran around playing with the kids, he loves to play find them!
The marker training is doing wonders, even after only 2 days! He is even doing the commands faster! And even when a whiskey jack was landing on our heads, he performed under distraction! We would never give him up or write him off, he fits us so well, its almost like he has always been here, I know there will be good days and bad days, but he is worth it all her loss is def our gain! Thanks for all of your suggestions! We are now both training well and enjoying it!
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#400651 - 04/17/2016 10:57 PM |
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Even with a "bad day" NEVER end a training session on a bad note.
Good or bad day give him a command of an easy, well trained behavior to end the session.
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#400652 - 04/17/2016 11:40 PM |
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Even with a "bad day" NEVER end a training session on a bad note.
Good or bad day give him a command of an easy, well trained behavior to end the session.
That is one piece of advice I will never forget!!!
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