Kelly wrote 02/20/2017 01:33 PM
Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403120 - 02/20/2017 01:33 PM |
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Hopefully Jazz will take his cues from her, and learn to be a dog. I have a dog like that, she learns better when I train her with another dog. I also used the buddy system approach when training Caterina to be a therapy dog - I worked her alongside of Drift, an accomplished therapy dog.
If she goes into heat before you get her fixed, she absolutely can't be outside alone - even in a fenced yard. A friend of mine had his dog bred through a chain link fence when she put her out one morning to go potty. On leash at all times!
My dogs have always been fairly clean, but there are some that just don't really clean themselves. The diapers work great, and surprisingly, none of my dogs objected to them - even the Mals.
Attitudes can change a bit when they are in heat - my dogs tended to be somewhat distracted and less engaged with me when they were in season. I learned not to teach new behaviors during those times as they weren't as receptive to learning. One of my dogs was super bitchy, but she's naturally that way, so being in season just enhanced that
Best of luck.
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403121 - 02/20/2017 02:51 PM |
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Thank you Kelly, I will absolutely not let her off leash period, until she is fixed, she is doing super well and is going to the door on her own to go potty, I am very happy with how she is progressing, it sure pays to have her know us already!
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403126 - 02/21/2017 04:55 AM |
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Outstanding to hear about your buddy system approach, Kelly. It actually seems to work for Jazz. I have no experience with this. Or perhaps a tiny little bit, don't know if this can be compared: When I have a training session with one dog the others are off leash. (Except one who has already been dog aggressive when in jealousy.) The others mostly come and take part in the lesson, although they are not rewarded because it's not their turn. They often follow the same command I gave to the one I'm training with, e.g a spin, roll over etc. Or do you think I should reward them too for this, although the command was not given to them?
They also know, when I throw a treat for a send away quite far from me even if the other dogs are then nearer to the treat, they don't steel it. Apparently they seem to know it is not meant for them. No idea why, I haven't taught this to them.
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403131 - 02/21/2017 10:27 AM |
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Well it seems Jazz's warm welcome for her wore off real fast. He is back on the floor ad ignoring us both. I don't think he will change much, but at least for the next few weeks he can watch from a distance while Dot and I bond.
It stemmed from taking them out for potty breaks, and him not going potty, so not receiving the treat. Than on a sit exercise, which she follows quickly and happily, he walked away, and didn not get the treat. To keep the pressure off of him, I allowed it and just put him away.
Than awhile later they were chewing on rawhides, and Jazz thought he could stare her down to get hers, now, remembering that he refused to eat any of these things before, I told him to knock it off. Than as soon as Dot got up to get water, he bolted for it, but I was ready and corrected him as soon as he touched it, and took them all away for the rest of the day.
That last night, I had filled a treatball for her, one he has in a year refused to touch, and had to laugh when he tried to block her from it when I was getting ready to take him out for a pee break ( I split them up now, since he was failing horribly at catching on its pee, or poop, than treat, not run around like a moron and than get treated lmao) and he bolted to the treatball, and lowered his head by it, blocking her access, so she growled and snapped at him, with zero contact, to which he yelped, startled and quickly laid down..as of then, I do not allow them in the same room while eating longlasting treats, and am glad I am smart enough already not to feed them in the same room, or ever leave them alone unsupervised.
He has never responded well to enthusiasm, which is why I kept my tone with him neutral through training, so I think all my positive reactions to Dot and whatever she follows through with is turning him off and throwing him off. He is not the kind of dog you can exclaim "good boy" in a happy voice to.
So in the next few weeks, I am backing off on him again, and putting my focus on her. When and if he actually gets up to join us in a simple petting session or joins in when I am proofing her sits and lay downs (which she is awesome at!) I will treat him as well, but otherwise I will let him watch and get used to the change in our household. Any suggestions on anything else I can do to make everyone more comfortable?
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403134 - 02/21/2017 12:05 PM |
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My dogs I can control when my female(s) come into heat. However, the strays are sometimes a problem here, too. One mutt climbed into her kennel then decided that he had found the love of his life and wouldn't let my husband near them... just say there was no honeymoon.
I would like to agree with Cheri about her health and having her spayed in two weeks. If she is only underweight, I would say no problem. If she is as grossly thin as you imply, I would absolutely hold off on the spay. The procedure is hard enough on the body without being healthy for the recovery. An emaciated animal needs to be started on feed slowly (as it sounds like you are doing) and it probably will take more than two weeks to get her back to a basic health level. She may not even be healthy enough right now to come into heat. I just worry about her health, based on how you have described her.
But on a happier note.... very happy you saved her! Good luck with such a sweet sounding gal!
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403135 - 02/21/2017 12:25 PM |
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Christina, taking in account of everyone's opinion, we decided to hold off the spaying until she is completely healthy. Yes, she is emaciated. There are not many words to describe hwo she looks, my kids immediatly became attached to her, which is a big thing with them. We train a few minutes a day just so she can get some high fat treats, and she is eating very well, and loving every minute of her life so far. I am sure there will be bumps and hiccups down the road, but we are allv very pleased with her progress, and my partner has taken it upon himself to let her out in the am, since he is an early bird (ungodly 5am!!) And he let's her hang out with him until I get up, working her with a few treats and a lot of cuddling. Jazz is preferring to be the odd one out and stays in his crate until I get up to let him out, around 7-8am.
I am amazed how quickly my partner jumped in to help, she sure does pull at the heart strings, even when she plants her bony butt on our feet
The vet usually makes a visit out here in fall, so we may just wait until then, rather than fly her out alone, as we may not be heading down for holidays this year.
Now we just have to hope Jazz wakes up and smells the biscuits!
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403143 - 02/22/2017 05:51 AM |
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Oh yes, a wagging tail. So encouraging and motivating to work with the dog. Wish you good progress further on. I really do love to hear about your dog's developpement
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403151 - 02/22/2017 11:42 PM |
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Poor Dot was under the weather today, she vomited this morning and had wet poo, I think the rawhide she consumed yesterday was too much for her. I had to fork feed her wet chunks of food, which she enjoyed, but she didn't finish her prepped meals. She is still drinking water, but was content to sleep. I don't blame her, we had a 2 day blizzard that dropped 3 feet of snow, so I was kept rather busy shoveling and running in to let each of the four dogs out. My ten year old was a saint and dogsat the little ones so I could focus on Jazz and Dot.
Jazz loves lentils..it is his super food, and has firmed his poo. I boiled brown lentils with a chunk of beef, and add it with psyllium husk, and he cleans his bowl! Still won't accept the morn feeds, so gets just the evening bowl, but hey, he eats!
I hope Dot wakes up with a better appetite tmrw, each poo she had she asked for the door, and now she wants to go in her crate for a quiet nap, which is a big step for us since my sister kept her constantly confined..
I can say, god I love this dog, and damn people for mistreating such gentle souls. With all the work we have to do with Jazzypants, it is so mice to have a grateful beautiful creature in the house just to stroke and relax with. I hope she lives a long life, and for some reason, I think she knows she will be taken care of, she just has this look and demeanor about her, that I feel she knows she is home
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403152 - 02/23/2017 12:05 AM |
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Dogs can't digest rawhide the way they digest meat or other dog foods.
Any dog that does anything more then chew on a rawhide probably shouldn't be allowed to have it.
It can easily block up their digestive tract.
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Re: From one rescue to two!
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#403153 - 02/23/2017 12:17 AM |
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I am couching it tonight so I can Bob! I have been keeping eyes on her all day.. Thanks for the heads up, I thought upset stomach, if she is still the same tmrw, I think my holiday money is going to be a flyout for the both of us!
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