That's fine but I really don't understand on what you mean on how I live with them. I understand I have to start somewhere and Basic obedience is a start. They have been living this way their whole lives and not too sure on how to change things. Are they supposed to be crated the whole time except during training and play? Right now the 3 younger ones are crated when eating but are allowed to run loose in the house when not eating. They are getting moody with each other at times but hate constantly separating them all the time. My wish is they will all behave and get along. I started this morning with basic obedience but working first with mom more intensely. I guess all I can do is try and hope I'm doing things right.

"I came back here because I thought you would help. You could have nicely told me that the information is there it was 5 or 6 years ago."

"Gosh I just read my old old post. I can't believe it's exactly the same thing that's happening now period while reading them I certainly learned a lot and will begin training tomorrow. I am so sorry if I gave everybody a hard time."

I've gone back and re-read the previous threads. I'm having a hard time understanding how you could have posted here previously, with the exact same problems, both in 2008 and in 2012, and now forgotten that you did so.

"I started this morning with basic obedience...."

Why didn't you start eight years ago? It's clear to me that you did not implement any of the excellent suggestions made from experienced owners and trainers from those previous threads. You have asked over and over again how to even start. You have some of the DVDs. I understand they can be overwhelming if you try to digest them all at once. My suggestion is to pick one and watch just the first chapter or just the first ten minutes, whatever. Put those ideas into action for a few days and get comfortable with them, then watch some more and add a little bit more into your routine. In addition to the DVDs you own, there is a ton of free information on this site in the form of articles and videos.

Another theme from all of your posts is that you just wish they all could get along. Ain't going to happen. You can't wish your dogs into doing anything. You have to implement the training and management. It takes time, patience, and hard work, consistently. Even then, there are some dogs who are simply not going to get along, and there are many folks here on this board and elsewhere who now or in the past have had to live with the crate-and-rotate regimen. If you cannot accept that, I strongly suggest you rehome some of the dogs.

Finally, in re-reading the previous threads, plus the new one you started yesterday, you seem much more concerned with posting pictures of your dogs than actually doing the training and management suggested by so many here. Kelly answered it succinctly, but I'll say it again. Leerburg is not the type of board where we all post pictures. It's not allowed, except in the Tribute page. You are allowed to post links to your photos, but, honestly, you have more important things to worry about.

You said you have re-read your previous threads here. Go re-read them, again. And again. And again. The answers are there.

See, that's why some people shouldn't have dogs, and why BYB's have a terrible reputation.

Hmmmm....when I get an email I don't see the posts here. Am I doing something wrong?

I did learn things from here and the video from last time. I now train all the puppies from 8 weeks old. No doubt I'm probably not following through ....I also keep most of them separate in 2's and like I said they all get along except the one who has always been a challenge. Most of the fights with the mastiffs stemmed from having two intact males and placed them while they were young in wonderful homes. Harley the one that did the fighting was attacked during that time which ruined her and she then fought with her mom only or other dogs. I kept her till she died last year at 11. I kept her separate from her mom at all times. If I didn't want to change things I wouldn't have came on the board. Can't we just move forward instead of condemning me for the past. I love the advice on here. Thanks for listening.

I'm not a back yard breeder. My reputation speaks for itself. I am having issue's with one dog not all of them.

Roanne, my post above was my long-winded way of saying your situation is not going to change unless and until you decide to do something to make that happen. The advice today is the same as the advice four years ago, eight years ago. Moving forward is entirely up to you, and to do that, you have to make some big changes. What you've been doing so far is not working for you or the dogs.

This is free, I suggest you study the information in it many, many times:

https://university.leerburg.com/Catalog/viewCourse/cid/14