I don't know much about creatine and this thread made me go to the K9 nutrition list I am on and search the archives. This link lists some of the side effects and if you ask me, it isn't worth the risk.
I was wrong it's not outlawed in professional sports. I apologize. BUT since this is such a controversial issue for humans taking it, I would not want to give it to a dog until more evidence is collected. Sorry for the wrong data, I thought it was.
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I lived in a gym for years and use to take about eveything for performance including creatine.It definately worked for me but I eventually got off of it because it was pretty much untested and you do have to saturate your system with it.Best I can remember the only way to get creatine naturally was to eat a couple of pounds of raw red meat a day.Since that is what it was simulating.Being how your talking about dogs instead of humans to get the same effects naturaly why dont you just start feeding raw red meat!!
Stop making excuses for your dog and start training it!
Did anyone other than myself that has used it ever feel more energetic?
That's what would bother me the most. I feel Steroids make people behave like they're on Speed in some ways. That's why I mentioned it, because even though Creatine is not the same and not as powerful it made me feel that way.
What would concern me is that when a human takes creatine monohydrate, he or she can consciously choose to take whatever precautions there might be.
So..how does one, for example, convince a dog that he needs to drink more water than he's used to? I'd be very uncomfortable monkeying with homeostasis and metabolic pathways... especially when the subject in question can't verbalize his or her physical sensations. That would really be my main concern.
I certainly don't take it, never have, and I wouldn't give to anyone or anything which didn't have a say in the matter.
As with most human dietary supplements, I am willing to believe that most of the effects are the same as you would find with a placebo, and often times the supplements really are just placebos.
1. I don't feel this is a Placebo thing because if it was you wouldn't get such a dramatic improvement in performance. I don't deny this stuff really could help dogs but there could be a cost.
People have had diseases go into remission because of a placebo effect. Just because you see a dramatic performance effect in people, does not mean it is not a placebo.
Creatine isn't like speed, meth, or steroids. The muscles use up ATP within the first 10 seconds of sustained muscles activity. Then the muscles must rely on other sources of energy. Creatine which is stored in the muscles can be converted to ATP and used to increase the duration of musclular activity. This alows for a few more crutial reps if your trying to build muscle mass. There are probably dangers related to kidney clearance and liver metabolism depending on the dosage. I don't really think there would be any benifit to giving it to a dog.
I have used it when lifting weights. It does increase the hydration of the muscles and provide a puffiness to the muscles and it may provide a little additional energy. It's not scientific but I ussually get sick (cold or Flue) and feel like Shi* and discontinue it. The loading phase is kinda a pain in the backside and without loading you don't really get the levels where they need to be to get positive reslts.
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