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#3998 - 12/10/2002 12:26 AM |
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Butch is right - only use flags to mark the beginning and end points. If delcious smelling weiners aren't holding your pup's attention why would flags?
Sorry I didn't explain clearer in my first post: use short grass like a lawn or a recently cut field to track on. The scent stays better on grass because the particles have something to cling to. Gravel would be the next step up, then sand or dirt, then pavement. The smoother the surface, the harder to follow the scent - generally speaking.
Have you tried letting your track age at all before taking your pup out?
Tracking is a great experience for both dog and handler. You get to take something a dog does naturally all the time on his own and channel it. Great fun!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#3999 - 12/10/2002 03:36 PM |
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Sorry for this guys ,you are all on the right track .lol The track laying and preperation is the most important part of tracking training.
Tacking ,have your starting point,and the ending ready in your mind before you start ,use a flag or markers I like large washers from the hardware store with a bright color tape tied on to them ,as even the best lose there way sometime.
What do i need to acomplish today with my dog ,is my dog ready for this ,am I .
Good to have someone go with you sometimes to see what you are doing ,as even us that track ever
other day need help.
And remember the weather conditions,they all have there challenges. Have fun.Peter
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#4000 - 12/10/2002 03:37 PM |
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Sorry for this guys ,you are all on the right track .lol The track laying and preperation is the most important part of tracking training.
Tacking ,have your starting point,and the ending ready in your mind before you start ,use a flag or markers I like large washers from the hardware store with a bright color tape tied on to them ,as even the best lose there way sometime.
What do i need to acomplish today with my dog ,is my dog ready for this ,am I .
Good to have someone go with you sometimes to see what you are doing ,as even us that track ever
other day need help.
And remember the weather conditions,they all have there challenges. Have fun.Peter
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#4001 - 12/10/2002 03:50 PM |
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THANKS PETER!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Having a good teacher also helps(Great). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#4002 - 12/10/2002 05:39 PM |
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I feel like everyone knows so much! (except me, of course). It would sure be nice to have a trainer, or a smart dog person to go out tracking with us.
Puppy man and I will have to tough it out on the long grass under the power lines or the stinky wet sand on the beach. sadly, we have no access to clipped grass, at least where I could train. The power company stops mowing the grass sometime in the fall, so it's a mess, but what the heck. At least I can't miss my own trail in that hay!
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#4003 - 12/10/2002 06:27 PM |
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Alex, I'll gladly share what I learn as Fanni and I progress. Both pups are about the same age.
There are places that I wouldn't have dreamed of out there to train. We've trained on the inside of a cloverleaf on the interstate hwy., along side of a local hwy.
With your pups age you don't need very much space.
Look for places all the time. if you attend a university or college there's places everywhere.
There's plenty help on this forum, use everyones knoweldge to learn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Training tracking puppy
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#4004 - 12/11/2002 11:49 AM |
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I would suggest as mentioned a shorter laid out scent trail to start out with and place the sliced wieners maybe a foot apart starting out then spread them out further away and place several at the end of the tracking trail. This is done on leash. I would let him smell my hand point to the trail and issue a tracking command, like "search" or "find it". As his nose goes to the ground tell him good dog. If (he shouldn't with these things in tact) the dog starts to roam off trail lead him back to the trail. Sit him, let him smell your hand that has the wiener scent on it and issue the tracking command again. I hear in competition you can't talk too much to the dog, but starting out you need to encourage him.
I sometimes place an item over the weiners at the end of the trail so the dog has to move the item to get the treat. Praise him with a "good find" along the way and really rub him/her down and praise at the end of the trail.
As he starts to improve lengthen the laid out tracks and treats.
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Just a quick reminder ,track with the wind at your back. Reason being you dont want him picking his nose up trieing to wind whats out ahead of him (wind scent), you want him to keep his nose on the ground.Wich is why I said earlier I always start with tracking boxes for a couple of weeks before straight lines.
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#4006 - 12/11/2002 11:09 PM |
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Wind direction. We do not train puppies tracking on very windy days we try to keep lessons positive and into the wind with plenty of food drops ,this i know could have problems of picking up air scent off other things, but it also works the other way by bringing scent down to the pup from the food drops, which makes it postive ,if the hunt drive ,food drive is strong head will not be up for anthing other than normal loss of task ,or frustration . Only when the puppy is tracking good do we start to introduce wind direction changes . Like everything else we need to do what works for us . Peter
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#4007 - 12/11/2002 11:21 PM |
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Hey Peter,
If you want to keep the pup from getting frustrated shouldnt you first teach the pup what he is suppose to be doing wich is putting his nose on the ground to find the food and not in the air,my point being why has no one else mentioned tracking boxes. With tracking boxes they learn where the food is and they know what the game is when you start your short straight lines. Do you use tracking boxes or just go straight to straight lines. I always use boxes first ,it makes for a smooth transition. Just curious how you start.
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