Brad your right I don't think you will ever walk outside and see one in the back of a squad car on a regular basies. But there are 2 that are working in law enforment. 1 is on the US boarder patrol and the other in South America patrol dog.
Originally posted by Brad G: Yes they can track, but to me what's the point generally. They will never be used as police dogs, even if they were head and shoulders above any working breed theoretically. I think with several breeds tracking is a waist of time unless you want to do it period. The reason they will never need it is because you won't see them in law enforcement. There's less and less GSDs every year in Law Enforcement which is tough enough, I can't imagine APBTs, Rotts, Dobies, being used whether they can be or not. There will be some, but through they years the handful would get smaller and smaller.
As far as APBT being used in law enforcement, is that in the US? Because I wouldn't think because of their notorious image they'd be considered, for Public Relation reasons. I don't know, I haven't heard of them being used. That's funny. How many tracking sports make police dogs out of most of their candidates? And if were talking practicality then do you believe that schutzhund tracking is practical for police work? Should schutzhund not have a tracking phase? There are a few narcotic Apbt's out there. My friends SchH2FH bitch is narcotics certified.
Ron Marshall who runs the Working Bull Dog board has trained and titled numerous Pits to SchH titles and other Certifications. He is an excellent trainer and helper.
Pits are perfectly capable trackers. Tracking can tell you much about a dog's drive, determination and ability to focus and problem solve. The breed's drawback in service work (police & SAR) is their tendency toward dog aggression. However, This can be controlled and there are 'less' dog aggressive individuals out there.
The APBT is an excellent breed. It is now, like many other breeds, suffering from it's popularity, infamy, and rampant unscrupulous breeders. Well bred Pits have pleasant dispositions toward people, great prey drive, are tough. They are also very trainable because of their desire to please their handler.
It's good to hear from APBT supporters <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I've
been around and owned Pit's for over 20 year's and so far that's the breed for me! I started my Pit's in sch just for fun and they did great! There are alot of APBT that are titled P.S.A ,SCH AND RING, but in PSA they mix it up alot. you have car jackings, Handler Attach From Hiding and a bunch of Distractions.It's a very diffcult sport. If you never been to a COMPETITION check out the site! Now BRAD G I grew up with GSD'S my father owned & trained 5 he loves them but even he wants a APBT now that his eye are open to the breed. He like everyone else have to forget what you hear and go with what you Know.
hope to hear more from you guys ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Sounds very exciting, I've looked at these trials before on the net and am interested in watching it.
For the record, Pitbulls can track, and they are tough dogs for PP work. Showing them do track work will help their public image and sway propaganda.
For me, as personal preference all I meant was if I was breeding this breed or several others that weren't going to be used as police dogs regardless of how good they were. Then tracking wouldn't be important to me personally. I would want the lines to have as much fight drive as possible, and focus all my energy on the real deal.
I’m not knocking Schutzhund or tracking. Don’t get me wrong. They're important. And now this will bring me to another question. That's for later.
To: Trying to sway public image on APBT, that will not happen anytime soon. Growing up in a neighbor full of GSD, there were kids being bit all the time. A GSD owner always let us play with his dog. One time the GSD felt like he didn't want to play (fetching a can)and rip up my friends face 4 surgeries and to this day he still has a scar. Myself,I have scars on my leg from a GSD who always got lose. You will not hear about these dog's on the news or papers, WHY you ask? I think we know WHY. GSD are the symbol of Protection! there's no news there, but the PIT!!! Will make HEAD LINES.
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