Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49634 - 11/26/2002 11:55 AM |
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I have not titled a dog since 1986 - that was an IPO 3 that was done in Germany. Before that I did a Sch 3 on my old dog Dux (who went on to become an excellent police service dog) I also titled two Sch 1 dogs (one a Terv that went to the DVG nationals) in 1982. I also tried a couple of females for Sch 1 that failed. Wish I could go back and apoloigize to those dogs - the training methods I used were terrible.
For ten years in the 1990's I worked several police service dogs - I did over 1000 narcotics searches (a little more exciting than a Sch trial)
Maybe you were still in diapers back in 1982.
As far as Przybylski goes - he needs to resign as head judge. In fact he should not even be a Schutzhund judge. I don't like Mark Przybylski - I do not feel that he is honest person. I think he will look you in the eye and lie to you. Przybylski was joined at the hip to Paul Meloy and Paul Meloy was a liar and a jerk. Need I say more? How Przybylski survived the Meloy debacle is beyond me. I have no problem telling Mark this to his face. Przybylski's performance at this year’s national was an embarrassment to all of the judges. I would like to know who the judges were that gave his dog a Sch 1: Sch 2: Sch 3. Przybylski got three gifts from three judges on that dog. He thought it would continue into the nationals and he was wrong. Maybe I should stream the video on my web site.
In the mean time Sch3FHS will be changing her displayed name to her real name or she will not post again.
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49635 - 11/26/2002 01:24 PM |
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Wow, went to work and missed out on all the action.
Bottom line is that while some people reading Ed's article may consider it belittling, he is only saying in writing what many others don't have the guts to. Everyone else just whispers in the bleachers......
Anyone that has trained a dog to a National level of competition can appreciate how much work and dedication it takes. We rely on our judges to pick and choose the dogs (by a point system) that go on to big events and usually into the breeding population.When the DIRECTOR of judges can't make it thru 2 out of 3 phases in a big event, I question his ability to be a judge. If he really could JUDGE dogs, then he would not have been there that particular weekend with that particular dog.
As always, only my opinion....
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49636 - 11/26/2002 01:48 PM |
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Perhaps this would be too much, but I do not think that unless the required score is earned under championship judging, much will change. If we only have 30 or so dogs in the Nationals for a few years then so be it. It will really be something to watch, as it will be the best of the best. But the problem is that if you must go to a regional trial, then I think that less people will attend anyway; there must be a middle ground, as a system like the Germans have will not work as the states is too big. The amount of traveling that one has to go to, to show a dog, is not the norm in Europe. I still think that each state should have a qualifying championship for the Nationals.
Hey Ed why not, put it on the Web site.
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49637 - 11/26/2002 01:50 PM |
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In the mean time Sch3FHS will be changing her displayed name to her real name or she will not post again.
Actually YOU did it, not me, but could you at least spell my name right??
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49638 - 11/26/2002 02:24 PM |
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Originally posted by MikeRussell:
Originally posted by Michael Talyor Rivers:
It is intresting that (please someone correct me if I am wrong) that the only top scoring dog that was in the top 10 was a Malinois, that was trained from a pup. That has more to do with the trainer than the breed of dog. Ivan could probably take a mutt (as long as it had decent drives) and make it a Nationals level dog. The dog being a Mal has nothing to do with it, so don't try going there. I am sorry but while I agree that Ivan is a very talented trainer, it is a shame that there are not as many HOT GSD out there like his Mal, that were shown, in a USA trial.
I do not feel that enough is being done to develope the working line GSD in America. It took an imported champion to beat Ivan, and further more the vast majority of the dogs that competed were top trained dogs from Europe. While I am not running any one down, as anyone that competes knows it takes a lot of effort to just SHOW a dog in a big event and do well; it would be nice to see some of our own bred GSD competing and doing well at the National level.
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49639 - 11/26/2002 02:29 PM |
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49640 - 11/26/2002 04:25 PM |
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I met Mark a few years back, at a trial. He judged, and while I thought his pencil was sharp, I do not feel he was unfair. He seemed to be a gentleman. I actually stayed in the same house as him for the duration of his stay. I also met him again at a National, spoke a few words, and he was like-wise.
I would like to see his footage. If Ed is not going to release the tape anytime soon, maybe he could stream it onto his web page? Did the dog look overly pressured?
Judges in this country have a tough job, at training, showing and judging. The travelling and other commitments are tough on a person, coupled that with family life. However, while anything can happen on a field, it does leave a bad image when any judge fails as poorly as Ed describes and is a direct reflection on our sport, wheather we choose to acknowledge this fact or not. To a new comer in the sport, a judge is a big image maker. I feel the judges have an obligation to uphold the best image possiable; why present a bad picture?
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49641 - 11/26/2002 05:25 PM |
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I never said Mark was not social. He is very social. Don't let this confuse you with incompetence and integrity. Many times people have a hard time with these distinctions.
The video will be on the nationals video that edit.
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49642 - 11/26/2002 05:54 PM |
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Well incompetence is something that is found all over the world with Schutzhund and dogs in general, but integrity is something that cannot be over-looked with such ease as incompetence. I look foward in seeing this footage. I would like to hear more on this issue as the sport needs to address such things with scrutiny.
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Re: 2002 Nationals Article
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#49643 - 11/26/2002 05:58 PM |
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Other then this performance what other problems Ed do you feel that Mark is/will causing USA and the sport?
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